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Roger Waters
"Darwin did not know what a bitter satire he wrote on mankind ... when he showed that free competition, the struggle for existence, which the economists celebrate as the highest historical achievement, is the normal state of the animal kingdom." Engels
Left: 8.99, Libertarian: 5.84
I love his music, fuck me Pink Floyd are spectacular.
I'd say that the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israelis is awful, absolutely awful; it's a complete human rights tragedy, a complete colonial occupation. I prefer comparing it to Apartheid to the Nazis, but there might be some trace similarities.
I saw The Wall this Summer. Waters is quite clearly deeply anti-Stalinist (if you will), anti-Fascist, anti-Corporate, anti-Capitalist, anti-Zionist, anti-Racist, and anti-Imperialist.
I never understood the appeal, honestly.
My favorite band of all time! I've always liked Rogers concepts and ideas despite usually thinking of him as the band asshole
I saw him live too. He puts on one helluva show.
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"[I]t’s hard to keep potent historical truths bottled up forever. New data repositories are uncovered. New, less ideological, generations of historians grow up. In the late 1980s and before, Ann Druyan and I would routinely smuggle copies of Trotsky’s History of the Russian Revolution into the USSR—so our colleagues could know a little about their own political beginnings.”
--Carl Sagan
He makes me cry, as if he struggles do get his art across and the genius we hear just isn't enough.
Brospierre-Albanian baseball was played with a frozen ball of shit and tree branch
"History knows no greater display of courage than that shown by the people of the Soviet Union."
Henry L. Stimson: U.S. Secretary of War
Take the word “fear” and the phrase “for what, it’s not going to change anything” out of your minds and take control of your future.
[I]Juan Jose Fernandez, Asturias
"I want to give a really bad party. I mean it. I want to give a party where there's a brawl and seductions and people going home with their feelings hurt and women passed out in the cabinet de toilette. You wait and see"
Does not caring for his music make me a dick?
i mean no, unless it was when he was with pink floyd before they split
"We must flee from Time, we must create a life that is feminine and human - it is these imperative objectives that must guide us in this world heavy with catastrophes."
Jacques Camatte, Echos from the Past
"For example, to say that the relation between industrial capital and the class of the wage workers is expressed in precisely the same way in Belgium and Thailand, and that the praxis of their respective struggles should be established without taking into account in either of the two cases the factors of race or nationality, does not mean you are an extremist, but it means in effect that you have understood nothing of Marxism."
Amadeo Bordiga, Factors of Race and Nation in the Marxist Analysis
No. I used to like Pink Floyd and I still can enjoy Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here from time to time, but I think The Wall is a shit album and I haven't paid attention to Waters' solo music at all.
"What is necessary is to go beyond any false opposition of programme versus spontaneity. Communism is both the self-activity of the proletariat and the rigorous theoretical critique that expresses and anticipates it."
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"...Stalinism is eternally condemned to govern capital, and the ideological dynamics of Stalinism are tied to this peculiar type of capital management; it is locked within this framework, reproducing the logic of capitalism under the veil of communism. For this reason, Stalinism, and its various derivatives, cannot accurately be regarded as communist if we choose to define it in materialist terms." - Tim Cornelis
yea i haven't heard pre-dark side floyd but all the albums i have heard (all the ones from 73-79) i loved as a kid but couldn't listen to now
I don't like Pink Floyd either so you're not alone.
Coalition of Resistance - Fight Back Against the Cuts!
"As for the lad "Sam_b", I've been reading this forum for a while and I don't think I've ever seen him contribute anything of any value. Most of the chap's posts seem to be confrontational and snarky digs at other posters. Thankfully, most other contributors do not seem to behave in this manner." - Some Guy
DSOTM and some other stuff from that period, like Umma Gumma, is great. I'm pro-Syd.
Can't stand The Wall but whatevs. But on the political question -- Great! Had a good discussion on it with a fellow cartoonist, who I was surprised was so pro-Palestinian, and then found out his grand parents were Jewish Holocaust survivors.
Love & respect to all those who struggle. An injury to one is an injury to all.
Roger Waters is a legend. I think that is the most accurate way to describe him. His music is intricate, layered art. My respect for him has only increased after seeing his political positions.
I like Dark Side of the Moon quite a bit. The Wall is more spotty, there's a few decent songs on it but it's pretty hit-or-miss. Plus it's a "concept album", and I almost universally hate concept albums.
All their other shit besides those two albums, as well as Roger Waters solo stuff, is pretty uninteresting IMO. My dad is a big fan of theirs so I've heard pretty much their entire discography.
"Win, lose or draw...long as you squabble and you get down, that's gangsta."
The Wall is a visual experience, as much as auditory. It's no good without the live show.
I'm not sure if the visual experience can make up for the horrible auditory experience of that album (what is it, anyway? Dolls crushing a wall with bricks made out of foam rubber?).
"What is necessary is to go beyond any false opposition of programme versus spontaneity. Communism is both the self-activity of the proletariat and the rigorous theoretical critique that expresses and anticipates it."
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"...Stalinism is eternally condemned to govern capital, and the ideological dynamics of Stalinism are tied to this peculiar type of capital management; it is locked within this framework, reproducing the logic of capitalism under the veil of communism. For this reason, Stalinism, and its various derivatives, cannot accurately be regarded as communist if we choose to define it in materialist terms." - Tim Cornelis
I've always thought Pink Floyd was an overrated band, though I used to listen to them religiously when i was a kid so maybe that has something to do with it.
No disrespect but if you really study music through years, it's hard to understand just how much praise they get for generic albums and the lyrics that anyone else could have wrote. Dark Side of the Moon was on the charts for years, though there was so much better stuff around at the time (just my opinion). When I first listened to it, I didn't see what all the hype was about. I thought it would be something like Electric Ladyland or Abbey Road in terms of brilliance and I just didn't hear what everyone else hears in it.
The Wall is their peak with all that said. It's probably their best album indeed.
I'm sorry but the over long songs and Orwellian lyrics don't appeal to me anymore. Roger Watters is an OK guy. I'm sure he puts up a hell of a show if that's your thing.
On the other hand, the 70's is one of the best eras for music, so rock on. You could close your eyes and randomly pick something from '70-'77 and almost always find a great gem.
