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    There is a point to his post guys. Being all dressed in simialr clothing would make the authorities jobs in singling you out harder. A lot of the ultas groups do it - and Im not on about the fascist ones
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    "Guys, we can have the revolution right now, we just need to start wearing peacoats!"

    Seriously though, there is a problem with looking like a social pariah but I agree with the criticisms of the op's point
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    Wrong on several levels but it's good that you're thinking about this kind of stuff.

    1. The tea party isn't a genuine threat to the state's authority so they don't have to worry about repression. They show up, wave their signs, give speeches about the importance of voting Republican, then go home. You will virtually never see a tea party group clashing with police because they don't have to, and this makes them appear more "orderly". Preserving "order" means preserving the bourgeois order and it's something that we can't afford to do and shouldn't want to do anyway.

    2. Wearing slacks doesn't automatically give you widespread appeal. The nazi's tried this and they still don't have it. It might help slightly but if you really want widespread appeal you would also have to tone down your rhetoric and adapt milder positions. Something that is, again, impossible and undesirable.

    3. You're missing the point completely. The point isn't to tailor our views to what the majority of people currently find acceptable. It is to bring the majority over to our views.
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    There is a point to his post guys. Being all dressed in simialr clothing would make the authorities jobs in singling you out harder. A lot of the ultas groups do it - and Im not on about the fascist ones
    You mean like this? Which has been a thing since the late '80s?



    And you're wrong about 'ultras' (I assume you're referring to the casual subculture), they don't/didn't wear identical clothes on purpose but various high-end brands (stone island, la coste, fred perry, burberry etc.). If i'm not mistaken this has its origins in english football fans in the 80s bringing back mainland euro brands just as a fashion trend while the cops were looking for the typical skinhead hooligan look, helping them slip past police lines. Nowadays some beefy guy wearing a fred perry polo, burberry cap & stone island jacket just screams hooligan so there's that.
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    I for one agree I think we should become more organized.
    But i don't think that the anti-fa movements have become less organized it's just that they are less active because for instance in Europe Nazism has become more popular with young people
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    You mean like this? Which has been a thing since the late '80s?



    And you're wrong about 'ultras' (I assume you're referring to the casual subculture), they don't/didn't wear identical clothes on purpose but various high-end brands (stone island, la coste, fred perry, burberry etc.). If i'm not mistaken this has its origins in english football fans in the 80s bringing back mainland euro brands just as a fashion trend while the cops were looking for the typical skinhead hooligan look, helping them slip past police lines. Nowadays some beefy guy wearing a fred perry polo, burberry cap & stone island jacket just screams hooligan so there's that.
    I do like thast picture, its exactly what I meant yes.
    Im on about Ultras, not casuals mate. Have a look at the groups around Europe. Green Brigade etc. You dont see them in fred perry, burberry or whatever. All dressed in similar eg khaki coats
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