Well of course I am against the Federal Reserve. Marxist-Leninism is in itself opposed to a Central Bank.
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I think you're cool
I just wondering dude...
It's called a joke
Because name-calling is never good. Just going around calling your enemies "Fascist, Racist, Nazi" sounds illiterate. I call people what they are, even if I don't agree with them. Capitalists are nothing but pigs, but the ideology they follow is capitalism, as such, I call them capitalist.
That's the scientific term for gay
Maybe I should...
I'll just stop being silly
Not even white
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Well of course I am against the Federal Reserve. Marxist-Leninism is in itself opposed to a Central Bank.
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Remus... He isn't a fascist. Stop acting like an arsehole, recently you seem to have taken this upon yourself to start acting extremely high and mighty with people when you think they are wrong and quite frankly it is tiring. The OP might be a bit naive with this one but everyone is with something at some stage (for the record OP this isn't the greatest of ideas haha!) and just because we don't all share your towering intellect, doesn't give you carte blanche to start shitting on people from a great height.
"He rather hated the ruling few than loved the suffering many."
Formerly known as Pragmatic-Punk / Right Hand Of Jah / Heinous Bifter
Id like to comment on this before I get on a pc and respond to sickle.
I wasn't calling him a fascist. Nor did I imply that. If you had reading skills you would realize it was taters and not me who said he was fascist. I didn't call him fascist, I said this is why people think he is fascist so he would stop doing these things.
Just because I don't sugarcode shit does not make me "nean" or elitist. Just because the way I write and talk bothers you does not give you carte blanche to start acting like I shit on everu post.
I mean why and when did the left turn into "the respectable discourse society"m?
"We must flee from Time, we must create a life that is feminine and human - it is these imperative objectives that must guide us in this world heavy with catastrophes."
Jacques Camatte, Echos from the Past
"For example, to say that the relation between industrial capital and the class of the wage workers is expressed in precisely the same way in Belgium and Thailand, and that the praxis of their respective struggles should be established without taking into account in either of the two cases the factors of race or nationality, does not mean you are an extremist, but it means in effect that you have understood nothing of Marxism."
Amadeo Bordiga, Factors of Race and Nation in the Marxist Analysis
I wasn't aware that historical re-enactment was considered a viable revolutionary tactic
The pictures of "revolutionaries then" you're linking are of armed militias, though. Demonstrators throughout history aren't usually there dressed up in uniforms, acting orderly. Also, the pictures of Occupy Wall Street you've posted are pictures of people being beaten by cops. You're expecting people to act orderly when they're being assaulted?
Going to a protest in business casual isn't going to make anyone take you seriously -- nobody takes the Tea Party seriously except for true believers, for instance. Being organized isn't the same as being image-conscious and expecting good press from big media outlets.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
The spectacle of opposition is spectacular.
"It is slaves, struggling to throw off their chains, who unleash the movement whereby history abolishes masters." - Raoul Vaneigem
"Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality will have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things." - Karl Marx
"What distinguishes reform from revolution is not that revolution is violent, but that it links insurrection and communisation." - Gilles Dauvé
I actually do agree that behaving in a disorderly manner is often a poor idea.
To be frank however, the fact is that Nazis are always going to look like they want to pound some skulls because assholes like to punch skulls and assholes also love rascism, ergo no matter what they are going to be much better ass kickers than we commies and anarchists who are guided more by compassion and fantasize about hurting others less.
Rightist groups have always been well organized and that is because Fascists like being told what to do. That is why they are fascists.
You all have probably seen me argue in favor of Tito and Trotsky, but im not one of those guys anymore.
Marxism-Leninism, Feminism and RuPauls dragrace!
emulate old revolutionaries by getting a ton of submachine guns
I ALMOST DIED OF A DRUG OVERDOSE BECAUSE OF ANARCHISM AND PUNK ROCK
I don't know about that man. Back when I actually had to deal with racist scumbags on a daily basis and fight them all the time I was pretty good at kicking their asses. Though you might have a point about my state of physical fitness right now but to be fair I haven't had to fight a racist asshole for a while.
We claim to live and die equal, the way we were born: we want this real equality or death; that’s what we need.
And we’ll have this real equality, at whatever price. Unhappy will be those who stand between it and us! Unhappy will be those who resist a wish so firmly expressed.
The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, one that will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last.
-Gracchus Babeuf
Revolutionaries then:
'revolutionaries' now:
"Of Man's first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree..."
- John Milton -
"The place of the worst barbarism is that modern forest that makes use of us, this forest of chimneys and bayonets, machines and weapons, of strange inanimate beasts that feed on human flesh"
- Amadeo Bordiga
I agree, he roams around this forum like he's a messiah. And I kind of spit on messiahs.
Having a decentralized leadership has always been the problem of socialist movements. No one assumes leadership and everyone fuck ups.
And wanting an organized leadership doesn't make us fascists. Just organized. If "organization" becomes a synonym for "fascism." We have a great problem.
Propaganda is an important part of the revolution and look what we're looking like right now, a big bunch of dirty hippies.
I agree with everything you said, all those anarchists are very counter productive.
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We do not need to be more "elegant" or "shape up". We're protesting, not attending a formal ball, and if our bourgeois adversaries happen to be able to afford better clothes and organize their astroturf events better than our grassroots movements, so be it. I hate to sound like an after-school special, but it's not about what you wear, it's about what you do.
Besides, have you not heard about the Sukhomlinov Effect?
I see your point.
Well, having fancy parade uniforms doesn't mean it'll be the same uniforms for combat.
I think he was more referring to the tactics we use. Unfortunately, some of our tactics are pretty thuggish and give the rightist media the opportunity to fuck us over.
Won't the media fuck us over either way?
"We must flee from Time, we must create a life that is feminine and human - it is these imperative objectives that must guide us in this world heavy with catastrophes."
Jacques Camatte, Echos from the Past
"For example, to say that the relation between industrial capital and the class of the wage workers is expressed in precisely the same way in Belgium and Thailand, and that the praxis of their respective struggles should be established without taking into account in either of the two cases the factors of race or nationality, does not mean you are an extremist, but it means in effect that you have understood nothing of Marxism."
Amadeo Bordiga, Factors of Race and Nation in the Marxist Analysis
Yes, not to mention the ever present threat of agent provocateurs...
True, but they'll have less to complain about. We could actually gain some public support. I don't know if you realized, but our current image is terrible. They portray us as the spawn of Satan, an Axis of Evil just by ourselves. I think we should find a way to collectively solve this problem.
You know there's something wrong when the current biggest communist in America is supposedly Obama.
I found a way around that, I bought the same pair of boots the cops wear. Sometimes they think I'm one of them.Sometimes they don't and they beat the shit out of me though...
