What would be the marxist stance on gun ownership?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I present hard, objective facts, and all you can say is; `Nope.' Crap like this is why I don't take you seriously, anymore. First of all, guns are very rarely used, by civilians, for self defense, particularly women, that is virtually nonexistent.

So what? That just means that civilians with guns are less likely to kill people than cops or soldiers.

Second, most homicides are intraracial, not interracial.

I never said otherwise. I was talking about access to firearms, not who kills who with them.

Third, most homicides are committed by an aquaintance, oftentimes the victims' spouse, or partner, what-have-you, and this is especially true for women, partly because men are responsible for such a dizzyingly disproportionate percentage of homicides. Women of color, most of all, are likely to be killed (never mind the thousands more who are injured, or terrorized) by their boyfriend, or husband. (Of course, this is not a result of some inherent tendency, but, rather socioeconomic factors.) Having a gun in a home, where domestic violence occurs, which happens wayyy too often, in this fucked society, dramatically increases the likelihood that that gun will be used against the woman in that house.

Again, you are tilting at windmills. Guns aren't the issue, the violence of what you perceptively call "this fucked society" is. I'm sure victims of violence are really comforted by the prospect of being stabbed rather than shot. Nah, didn't think so.

I'm not advocating gun prohibition, and I never have. (Which will absolutely NEVER happen, anyhow.) I just don't see why you can't acknowledge the fact that for working class women, particularly women of color, guns are a seriously mixed bag, or that gun culture is patriarchal, and reactionary as fuck.

I acknowledge that working class women face issues such as violence, but fail to see what's so special about guns in that regard. Violence against women is unacceptable no matter the form it takes, so why single out guns when that does nothing to address the underlying issues of a patriarchal society?

As for American gun culture, that definitely needs a revolution and shouldn't be emulated. But even US firearms aficionados aren't all reactionary gun nuts, so there is hope there.

[Sinister Intents]

I actually support the prohibition of alcohol.

Why? There is nothing wrong with alcohol being legal.

[Doctor Hilarius]

Whoever is in power controls the guns, and has an interest in restricting access to guns to their opponents.

It is very simple, if you are a dissident, there are lots of people who won't want you to have guns.

To those of you who cite gun death statistics etc, the military industrial complex goes out there and kills, wounds and displaces millions with guns, and they aren't going to hand over those guns to anybody willingly.

Pro-gun control leftists are completely ahistorical and living in a fantasy land. The only true gun control would be if nobody had guns, but since the state isn't going to hand over their guns, the people should be able to keep their own.