uhhh look around you and you want to say things is good?
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Socialists/Communists/other leftist where's your proof that capitalism fails?
Give me documented evidence.
uhhh look around you and you want to say things is good?
"We must flee from Time, we must create a life that is feminine and human - it is these imperative objectives that must guide us in this world heavy with catastrophes."
Jacques Camatte, Echos from the Past
"For example, to say that the relation between industrial capital and the class of the wage workers is expressed in precisely the same way in Belgium and Thailand, and that the praxis of their respective struggles should be established without taking into account in either of the two cases the factors of race or nationality, does not mean you are an extremist, but it means in effect that you have understood nothing of Marxism."
Amadeo Bordiga, Factors of Race and Nation in the Marxist Analysis
Definitely not in Greece.
"Good" is relative. What I may classify as "good" others may classify as "bad". You need to be more specific.
That's not documented....
Compare Cuba to any other Latinamerican country. See its Gini coefficient, life expectancy, it literacy rate, human development index, etc. and that after a 50 years blockade.
Also worth reminding that the bigges demographic disasters of the XXth century without a war was the transition from socialist to capitalis economies in the Eastern Block, compare data about those countries prior to 1991 and today, frightening to say the least.
Para los pueblos de todo el mundo, que luchan por la paz, la democracia y el socialismo, el leninismo es como el sol que trae consigo una vida alegre. - Ho Chi Minh
Comunes el sol y el viento, común ha de ser la tierra, que vuelva común al pueblo, lo que del pueblo saliera
Maoism is (...) Marxism Leninism on cocaine - Rafiq
Pas de liberté pour les ennemis de la liberté - Louis Antoine de Saint-Just
El marxismo conlleva muchos principios que en últimas instancias se compendian en una sola frase: “es justo rebelarse contra los reaccionarios" - Mao Tse-Tung
Die Barrikaden schließen der Strasse aber geöffnet der Weg.
Where's is the statistics that show this.
Where's your proof that Monarchy fails? Or that slavery fails? Or that Theocracy fails? Or Tribalism? Or Feudalism? Give me documented evidence.
Seriously, this is got to be one of the most loaded questions I've ever seen. It's not a question of whether capitalism simply "fails" or not. Capitalism "works" very well... for the capitalists. Most of the time. Rather, the question should be of whom capitalism fails and why.
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The great depression and all the other economic disasters that have occurred since capitalism's inception seem to be ample proof enough. It's funny, capitalism fails for everyone at some point in their lives but it only really 'succeeds' for a tiny minority.
Modern democracy is nothing but the freedom to preach whatever is to the advantage of the bourgeoisie - Lenin
How is that capitalisms fault?
without poverty where would it be
"whatever they might make would never be the same as that world of dark streets and bright dreams"
http://youtu.be/g-PwIDYbDqI
If we are to get more into it, you have to understand the Marxist analysis of capitalism and the kind of society-relations it creates, which are full of contradictions and hence permanent problems. From a Marxist analysis, everything ranging from simple economic concepts like low living standards, inequality, crisis, unemployment to daily life things like corruption, social oppression, racism, gender discrimination to massive things like unfair global trade relations, wars, environmental destruction are a product of class stratified society, and in our contemporary case capitalism.
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~manicas/pdf_files/New_Courses/Marx'sPhilosophy.pdf
http://marxmyths.org/index.php / http://www.marxists.org/subject/marx...ay/article.htm
http://www.thehobgoblin.co.uk/journal/h4holloway.html
Ask yourself this: For socialism or socialism for, you are a revolutionary
So, comparing Cuba to other Latin American countries automatically makes Capitalism a failure in comparison to Communism? Cherry-picking facts out like healthcare isn't going to help your cause.
Ahem...
http://dupress.com/articles/success-...?icid=hp:ft:01
Declining return on assets over the last 47 years is proof of what Marx called the declining rate of profit. They blame it on a vacuous thing they call "companies lack of clear long-term vision and strategy", but Marx knew better.
"This is my test of character. There you have the despotic instinct of men. They do not like the cat because the cat is free, and will never consent to become a slave. He will do nothing to your order, as the other animals do." — Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
"The intellectual and emotional refusal 'to go along' appears neurotic and impotent." — Herbert Marcuse.
"Our blight is ideologies — they are the long-expected Antichrist!" — Carl Gustav Jung
Here are some fucking statistics
There are about 7 billion people on earth, 80%-85% live in poverty (under $10 a day). That is about 5.6 Billion.
Of those 7 billion, 2.2 billion are children; of which 1 billion children live in poverty
22,000 children die each day due to poverty related issues
1 in 3 children lack shelter.
I bet it's real easy to jerk off to Ayn Rand from the safety of your middle class home
Also I'd really your reply to
rylasasin's comment
This attitude of the "leftist" friends are not the way to spread our way of thinking. You guys should handle people who are not of our way of thinking better than this. We are not at war with these people, we need these people. So when someone asks why capitalism is a failure from our perspective, I believe you should approach better than this.
I hate it when I say I am a Marxist and people just think I am an angry teenager.
There is a whole epistomological framework here. Don't simplify things.
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~manicas/pdf_files/New_Courses/Marx'sPhilosophy.pdf
http://marxmyths.org/index.php / http://www.marxists.org/subject/marx...ay/article.htm
http://www.thehobgoblin.co.uk/journal/h4holloway.html
Ask yourself this: For socialism or socialism for, you are a revolutionary
It just fails. Rich people live, poor - survive. Is this normal? No.
I'm not cherry picking it, the UN and international organisms say so:
Unicef: Cuba is the only Latin American Country without child malnutrition
UN: Cuba is the only Latin American country without drug related problems
ONEC: Cuba has onle of the highest lie expentancies in Latin America
UNESCO: Cuba has one of the highest literacy rate in the world
WWF: Cuba is the only country that has sustainable development
Bonus
But yeah, maybe it isn't fair to compare cuba to Haiti, Mexico o Colombia, we could compare it also to the US, but then you'll weep a lot
Para los pueblos de todo el mundo, que luchan por la paz, la democracia y el socialismo, el leninismo es como el sol que trae consigo una vida alegre. - Ho Chi Minh
Comunes el sol y el viento, común ha de ser la tierra, que vuelva común al pueblo, lo que del pueblo saliera
Maoism is (...) Marxism Leninism on cocaine - Rafiq
Pas de liberté pour les ennemis de la liberté - Louis Antoine de Saint-Just
El marxismo conlleva muchos principios que en últimas instancias se compendian en una sola frase: “es justo rebelarse contra los reaccionarios" - Mao Tse-Tung
Die Barrikaden schließen der Strasse aber geöffnet der Weg.
We almost watched the system collapse because of itself five years ago and have been watching it barely hobble along ever since.
If you're interested in actual outlines and critiques of capitalism, then you're going to want to check out something a little more substantive. I could point you straight to Marx's Das Kapital or Brendan M. Cooney's youtube series on Kapital, but I think a more recent and perhaps a little more readable book would be The Enigma Of Capital by David Harvey, which talks about the recent crisis.
Either way, the way this question is framed makes it impossible to answer -- because capitalism doesn't "fail". It chugs along well enough, making the people who "matter" very, very powerful, even through crisis. By any sensible metric, the number of people who starve every year despite our ability to produce enough to feed everyone, the number of homeless despite the abundance of houses standing vacant (specifically in America, here), the people who killed and were killed in wars fought for business, and who kill and are killed now that war is a business, would seem like the markers of a disastrous system.
But human need is only a passing concern. So long as there's profit, capitalism is working as intended.
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Collective Bruce Banner shit
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Because crisis is inherent to capitalism. You can't have capitalism without poverty, without violence, without exploitation, and without devastating crises.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
