Former Golden Dawn member: 'We'll enter parliament with tanks'

[ВАЛТЕР]

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Particularly disturbing to me is the fact that they are actually training to cut throats...

Former Golden Dawn member: 'We'll enter parliament with tanks'

Witness claims party members slaughtered sheep to learn how to stab in the neck






Testimony from a fifth onetime member of Golden Dawn provides insights into how neonazi party recruited, trained, indoctrinated and disciplined its members
Neonazi Golden Dawn indoctrinates new recruits that the enemy is "Jews, Zionists and Communists" Golden Dawn's object is the "overthrow of the democratic system" and it intended to do this by "entering parliament with tanks", a former member of the party has claimed in sworn testimony against the neonazi party.
The man is the fifth individual to deliver evidence to investigating magistrates investigating the neonazi party. Like all of the witnesses, he has requested protection from the authorities and cannot be named.
His testimony, deposited on Saturday amid heightened security, will now be used to proceed against a number of Golden Dawn MPs not charged last week.
The witness, who says he was active in Golden Dawn until recently, claimed that party members were put through an training programme which included, among others, slaughtering lambs "in order to learn the technique of stabbing the carotid [artery] with a knife".
This activity, he alleged, took place under the supervision of Nikos Michos, now a Golden Dawn MP for Evia, in sheep pens around Malakasa, in eastern Attica.
Arms training with shotguns also took place in a remote area in Palia Pentili, north of Athens.
He added that recruits were put through ideological training and brainwashing by being forced to buy copies of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf, Josef Goebbels' diary and The Protocolls of the Elders of Zion, a notorious antisemitic forgery that claims a secret Jewish committee runs the world, to "learn who the enemy is: Jews, Zionists and the Communists".
The party's line, he said, was that "because Marx was a communist, Jews and communists are the same".
He also said that four future Golden Dawn MPs – Ilias Kasidiaris, Ilias Panagiotaros, Yiannis Lagos and Yiorgos Germenis – participated in an attack by Golden Dawn members on migrants in the old appeals court on Sokoratous street in central Athens in May 2009. The four and others fired improvised fireworks into the building, injuring those inside.
He also alleges that new recruits were encouraged to get a tattoo of the Totenkopf, the skull and crossbones motif used by the SS, and variations of the swastika.
The witness alleged further that every Saturday, members of his Golden Dawn cell met at party offices to report on the attacks on migrants, leftists, anarchists and drug addicts they had carried out that week.
The party used harsh measures to maintain discipline over members, he claimed: "Any deviation from the principles of organisation, or the wishes and orders of the leader and high-ranking members automatically resulted in harsh punishment, savage beatings and public humiliations. I was present at some of these unpleasant situations and know that in some cases, loud music was played so that we wouldn't hear the voices of those being beaten."
Summing up, the witness said he deeply regretted his involvement in the organisation.
"I'm very sorry because I did great disservice by engaging in this criminal organisation. I got carried away like many other people. Some got involved for their own benefit and out of the need that so many of us have to belong somewhere. I hope this investigation will lead to some real effects and eliminate the danger that is called Golden Dawn."

[Philosophos]

I'm seriously sick of them. They don't want to understand FACTS. NOT OPINIONS FACTS!!! . I consider to start beating the crap out of every GD guy that I see.

[ANTIFA GATE-9]

Muck like the Greek Junta's way of entering places they shouldn't be, by knocking down gates with tanks.
At least some members are getting some sense and distancing themselves from the organization.

[DROSL]

I doubt you can fit a tank in a parliament.

[DROSL]

I'm seriously sick of them. They don't want to understand FACTS. NOT OPINIONS FACTS!!! . I consider to start beating the crap out of every GD guy that I see.

"The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury." - Marcus Aurelius

[Philosophos]

"The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury." - Marcus Aurelius

I will quote an unpopular song: "I have a girlfriend, she's called Logic, whoever rapes her will have to deal with me". Perfect fit for my relation with GD members/supporters.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Take that pacifist Gandhi crap elsewhere. Nazis need to be sent to walk on minefields blindfolded.

[Sasha]

why blindfolded? i admit its more terrifying for them but less entertaining for us when we dont get them to see to come up with a strategy only to either fail or get shot when they make it out alive..

[Crux]

I'm seriously sick of them. They don't want to understand FACTS. NOT OPINIONS FACTS!!! . I consider to start beating the crap out of every GD guy that I see.

If you can't convince a fascist, acquaint his head with the pavement.

But yes, these are indeed disturbing news although I can't say I am surprised the Greek establishments banning of Golden Dawn has not shut them down. But perhaps what we are seeing is an act of desperation?

[Sasha]

i think the article in the OP is one of the clearest examples of the rats deserting the sinking ship. become a state witness now or end up in jail.
Enet newspaper is mostly an mouth piece for the ruling social-dems.
in the end this analysis i posted before still holds true:

Occupied London statement on the ‘dismantling’ of the Golden Dawn by the Greek state: There ain’t no such a thing as bourgeois justice

Monday, September 30, 2013
And so, on the sunny autumn morning of September 28th – a quiet, almost tranquil morning – the state and media, inside and beyond the Greek territory, woke up anti-fascist. Were the days when the exact same culprits fueled Nazism, the days when authorities meticulously wovethe institutional racism, totalitarianism and impoverishment just a bad dream? Of course not. In the time that has passed since the murder of Pavlos, they have scrambled to present a clean face, but for all their pretensions the anger is still there. Just under five swirling years after Alexis dropped dead on that Exarcheia street corner, we are still faced with the same power zombies that our revolt had attacked but did not manage, it seems, to finish off. During all these years, the number of our sisters and our brothers who died in the hands of the state or its offshoots only keeps growing. Katerina Goulioni, Nikolas Todi, Cheikh Ndiaye, Mohammad Atif Kamran and Shehzad Luqman… Katerina died in the hands of her state captors; Nikolas, Cheikh and Mohammad were assassinated by the police; Shehzad was killed by the knives of Nazis, just like Pavlos did on September 17th. Along with who knows how many others, tortured and pulled off the streets, held in Amygdaleza and all the other concentration camps, sentenced to death and then to oblivion, too – for national homogeneity reserves no space even for the memory of most of its victims. These same people that have now supposedly turned anti-fascists are those who ordered the detention 70,000 migrants in a single year; who vilified supposedly HIV-positive women and rounded up drug addicts en masse; who lead women and men to despair and suicide daily… The list only keeps growing.
And now, after all these years, the same state power that bred the Nazis seems to have decided that it no longer needs them, that they must be discarded. Is this justice? Of course not: how can the perpetrators ever offer justice to their victims? Whether or not it decides to keep its offshoots by its side, this is the same plexus of power that convicted all of our sisters and brothers to torture and death, in a myriad of ways. It is the one that has entrenched racism and fascism as an everyday condition, the one that has consolidated its perpetuated authority upon the bodies and the minds of migrants, lesbians and gays, anti-fascists, pariahs and dropouts from its system: one and all who do not fit into the suffocatingly tight frame of national unity and social order. It was not us who killed off the Golden Dawn; the system that bred it did. So don’t mistake this for justice; we will never see any delivered by those who breed injustice and exploitation.

[Loony Le Fist]

Contemporary Greece is reminiscent of the late Weinmar Republic. There are some remarkably scary parallels. Hopefully, the antifa and the anarchists combined with public sentiment can dispel Golden Dawn before it's too late. Though, it must be quite taxing on the morale to know that a large amount of the police and military are sympathetic to the fascists. With Greece once being occupied by the Nazi's in WWII, I just can't see them allowing it to happen all over again.

[Thirsty Crow]

Does the bit about "entering the parliament in tanks" indicate that the key sphere of GD's projected influence is the military apparatus, and that through it these fucks planned to carry out a coup d'etat?

[DROSL]

Take that pacifist Gandhi crap elsewhere. Nazis need to be sent to walk on minefields blindfolded.

I'm not a pacifist, I just think beating on Greeks wouldn't make good propaganda. Unfortunately, right now, they're the ones feeding the poor people. This is a task, the KKE should do, but no, instead they fight with anarchists.

[Loony Le Fist]

I'm not a pacifist, I just think beating on Greeks wouldn't make good propaganda. Unfortunately, right now, they're the ones feeding the poor people. This is a task, the KKE should do, but no, instead they fight with anarchists.

Golden Dawn has done quite a good job of beating on Greeks, in fact even killing one. Fascists that assault, batter and kill their own people cannot be tolerated in civil society. They might feed the poor, but at what cost? The people of Greece must see through their facade and expel them.

[Thirsty Crow]

Golden Dawn has done quite a good job of beating on Greeks, in fact even killing one. Fascists that assault, batter and kill their own people cannot be tolerated in civil society. They might feed the poor, but at what cost? The people of Greece must see through their facade and expel them.

I don't think that Pavlos represents the only case of a man being murdered by GD.

[Loony Le Fist]

I don't think that Pavlos represents the only case of a man being murdered by GD.

I don't doubt it. I probably don't know as much as I should. What other murders have you heard about?

[Rafiq]

What we need is more aggressive and menacing left, that projects mass fear in the hearts of the enemies.

[Philosophos]

If you can't convince a fascist, acquaint his head with the pavement.

But yes, these are indeed disturbing news although I can't say I am surprised the Greek establishments banning of Golden Dawn has not shut them down. But perhaps what we are seeing is an act of desperation?

What I think with my little mind is that GD is a scapegoat. Whenever the government has something to hide all the media are like: "Oh hey have you seen what GD has done lately? Don't worry we will bomb you with all the unnecesery information that you already knew so we will keep you distracted".

With the latest shit of GD we haven't even heard about the new measures that are going to take place (I don't even know if they already took place I stopped watching the news). Praise the media once again.

[Loony Le Fist]

What I think with my little mind is that GD is a scapegoat. Whenever the government has something to hide all the media are like: "Oh hey have you seen what GD has done lately? Don't worry we will bomb you with all the unnecesery information that you already knew so we will keep you distracted".

With the latest shit of GD we haven't even heard about the new measures that are going to take place (I don't even know if they already took place I stopped watching the news). Praise the media once again.

One could say that the Tea Party's antics (along with other non-issues we are bombarded with) serve a similar function in the US. Though without all of the violence.

[ВАЛТЕР]

I'm not a pacifist, I just think beating on Greeks wouldn't make good propaganda. Unfortunately, right now, they're the ones feeding the poor people. This is a task, the KKE should do, but no, instead they fight with anarchists.

Keep up with the "Newswire from Greece" thread in the "Ongoing Struggles" subforum. The Fascists aren't only one's handing out food and whatnot. The KKE/PAME/KNE, as well as the anarchists are doing such things as well. Recently the KKE organized distribution of school supplies and clothes for children and families that cannot afford them if I recall correctly.