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    Default Same-sex marriage: Yes or No?

    I was reading a thread in the Learning section, and the poster asked what Socialist countries permitted/accepted same-sex marriage. And unfortunately many of the past and present socialist countries are not same-sex friendly. The only socialist country I can think of that is tolerant of same-sex marriage is Cuba. So, do you think same-sex marriages should be allowed in socialist countries?

    I would, however, like to know my fellow leftists opinions on this. Here's the options (there'll be in the poll as well):

    • Same-sex couples should be able to marry, and have the same rights as heterosexual couples.
    • Same-sex couples should not be able to marry, and not have the same rights as heterosexual couples.
    • Same-sex couples should be allowed in civil unions, however, with the same rights.
    • Same-sex couples should be prosecuted and same-sex marriage illegal.


    I personally believe same-sex couples should be able to marry, and have the same rights as heterosexual couples.

    EDIT: Made a little boo-boo, could a mod put those four options into a poll. Don't know why mine didn't show.
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    Same-sex couples should be able to marry, and have the same rights as heterosexual couples.
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    Same-sex couples should be able to marry, and have the same rights as heterosexual couples.

    I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
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    Anyone who says differently than the first should be banned immediately.
    There is no excuse to be anti-lgbt at this point.
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    Same sex couples should be able to marry, and have the same rights as heterosexual couples. They're people just like myself and anyone else. They love and bleed just as we all do so to judge them based on their love affairs is a bit wrong.
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    Same-sex couples should be able to marry, and have the same rights as heterosexual couples.
    Fuck anyone who disagrees.
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    i understand if you're new to this, so i will answer with no malice. "same sex couples should be treated as well as everyone else in every way". LGBT people are people first, let us not treat them as if they are not. they deserve the same respect and acceptance and freedoms as every other group of people. in fact i believe the brave "out" people should be respected and revered for being themselves in an oppressive world full of heteronormative societies which would seek to oppress them.
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    i understand if you're new to this, so i will answer with no malice. "same sex couples should be treated as well as everyone else in every way". LGBT people are people first, let us not treat them as if they are not. they deserve the same respect and acceptance and freedoms as every other group of people. in fact i believe the brave "out" people should be respected and revered for being themselves in an oppressive world full of heteronormative societies which would seek to oppress them.
    I 100% agree with that. I have gay friends and know gay people who are "Out of the closest" and I have the utmost respect for them. They're admirable and there's nothing wrong with them.
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    I'm not going to attach a poll as the only use for it would be to see who needs restricted.
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    Same sex marriage should be allowed. It shouldn't even be voted on. It's no different then a man and woman getting married. How could one argue otherwise? Love's love.
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    Anyone who says differently than the first should be banned immediately.
    There is no excuse to be anti-lgbt at this point.
    What is intolerant about #3?
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    Of course same-sex marriage should be legal. Hopefully no one here is against it.
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    What is intolerant about #3?
    The fact that it implies homosexuals (like myself) aren't good enough for "regular" marriage.
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    Same-sex couples should be able to marry, and have the same rights as heterosexual couples, also any novel combination between loving, consenting adults should be allowed to do as they wish and have the same rights as everyone else, nothing less!

    So a adult "Creature from Smart Planet X6"-human couple should be allowed to marry and have the same rights as heterosexual couples.
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    So a adult "Creature from Smart Planet X6"-human couple should be allowed to marry and have the same rights as heterosexual couples.
    Uh... what? Could you expand on what you're trying to say here?
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    Comrade Marceau, this should not be a question (outside of the learning forum, that is), as very much all of us take the position that homosexuals are to have equal rights in all aspects of life.
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    The fact that it implies homosexuals (like myself) aren't good enough for "regular" marriage.
    I'm not sure there really is much of a difference except that the word marriage has religious overtones...
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    (Sorry for the double post) Marriage does have religious tones but it's became such a broad term now adays that even atheists such as myself use it. Hell even Pagans I know use marriage. Language evolves. Gay went from meaning happy to a man/man couple or a woman/woman couple.
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    Uh... what? Could you expand on what you're trying to say here?
    I'm trying to say that any combination of thinking adults, if they are both loving, consenting adults who WANTS to be together should have the same rights and privilages as everyone else who wants to be together.

    In other words, I believe that if 8000 year old, 40 year old, and 29 year old or any other combinations of thinking, and consenting adults regardless of sex, race, species, etc., unlikely or otherwise, all wants to marry as in a polygamous relationship then they should ALL have the same rights as heterosexual couples do now.

    Also, singles should have the same rights and privilages, regardless of sex or if they are very old, or whatever, as same rights as heterosexual couples. The reason I say this is because in some places (thankfully rare) I've read that singles, especially single women, are viewed as less of a human begins when they are unmarried passed a certain age, as married people, which should change.
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    I'm trying to say that any combination of thinking adults, if they are both loving, consenting adults who WANTS to be together should have the same rights and privilages as everyone else who wants to be together.
    Couldn't you have just said it like that then? I was certain you were implying that it was an abomination, somehow.

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