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    Is it appropriate for a far-leftist to wave a Israeli flag on an anti-fascist protest?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfitV...ctr=1378983828 Israeli flag at 3:14
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    Nope.

    Hella dumb people will do it, though.
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    Is it appropriate for a far-leftist to wave a Israeli flag on an anti-fascist protest?
    As appropriate as waving an Apartheid South Africa flag or a British Raj flag.


    Hell fucking no. Why would you even need to ask this question!?

    Any 'far-leftist' who waves around zionist flags is no friend of mine.
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    As appropriate as waving an Apartheid South Africa flag, a Third Reich flag or a British Raj flag.


    Hell fucking no. Why would you even need to ask this question!?
    I am against this personally but i have seen people waving those flags and wanted to see what people in the revleft community think about it.
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    I think the use of those flags is a reflection of the amorphous nature of the "anti-fascist" milieu itself, which is often a breeding ground for socialist collaboration with global capital and imperialism.
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    I am against this personally but i have seen people waving those flags and wanted to see what people in the revleft community think about it.
    Did they, by any chance, have a blue coloured 'antifaschistiche aktion' symbol on their regalia at these protests (the Antifaschistiche aktion symbol is the circle with two flags lined up next to one another within it in the center symbol on the Revleft logo, between the hammer and sickle and the 'A')?

    If they did, then you'd best stay clear of them. They're the rightist 'anti-deutsch' (otherwise known as 'anti-German') nutjobs who've infiltrated antifa groups all over Europe. They support ridiculous racist political positions based on historical quackery, such as bombing Germany and Iran, jingoistically defending racist imperial Israel's exploits in the Levant and supporting Israel's own little manifest destiny a.k.a. 'the right to the promised land'.
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    Where did you see the Israeli flags @Stalinist Speaker? There is in Germany the 'Anti-German' political tendency which does express solidarity with Israel.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...&printable=yes

    They are active in anti-fascist organizing as you can see in the Wikipedia photos.
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    Yeah, if it was in Germany it where probably anti-deutsche, I wouldn't go so far to call all anti-d's rightists, the hardcore Bahamas crowd are of course but you won't see them at demo's anymore, otherwise its ofcourse a sure fire way to wind fash up. But its stupid. The only kind of acceptable use of the Israeli flag is by the Ajax hooligans ;-)
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    Pro-tip: Don't bring any national flags to an antifascist protest. If you must bring a flag, bring a revolutionary one.
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    Did they, by any chance, have a blue coloured 'antifaschistiche aktion' symbol on their regalia at these protests (the Antifaschistiche aktion symbol is the circle with two flags lined up next to one another within it in the center symbol on the Revleft logo, between the hammer and sickle and the 'A')?

    If they did, then you'd best stay clear of them. They're the rightist 'anti-deutsch' (otherwise known as 'anti-German') nutjobs who've infiltrated antifa groups all over Europe. They support ridiculous racist political positions based on historical quackery, such as bombing Germany and Iran, jingoistically defending racist imperial Israel's exploits in the Levant and supporting Israel's own little manifest destiny a.k.a. 'the right to the promised land'.
    there were no anti-fascist logos that i saw not any blue atleast.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfitV...ctr=1378983828 at 3:14 there is an israeli flag.
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    Where did you see the Israeli flags @Stalinist Speaker? There is in Germany the 'Anti-German' political tendency which does express solidarity with Israel.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...&printable=yes

    They are active in anti-fascist organizing as you can see in the Wikipedia photos.
    this is an anti-racist protest in the US so its against American nazis. There is an Israeli flag on 3:14
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfitV...ctr=1378983828
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    I voted "Yes" - not because I support people bringing Israeli flags to protests, but because it is indeed completely appropriate in the context of socialist "anti-fascism," for reasons stated above.
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    Most likely, the protesters are liberals or politically confused persons who are trying to provoke the Nazis with an Israeli flag. They really should have used an alternative Jewish symbol - one without an association with a colonial state. But probably, no political support for Israel was intended. I think the only socialist organisation in the US that might consciously turn an anti-fascist protest into a platform for Israel apologism is Solidarity. Possibly. The worst elements of Shachtmanism (like Sean "wearing the keffiyeh is a hate crime" Matgamna) are really in love with Israel.
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    Israeli flag as a symbol of anti-racism?

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    "Is the Confederate flag appropriate?"
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    Is it appropriate for a far-leftist to wave a Israeli flag on an anti-fascist protest?
    If it's on fire, sure, why not.
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    "Is the Confederate flag appropriate?"
    Nope just as i said before i dont support the use of israeli flag just a question to the revleft community to see yours view. because i have seen Israeli flags used in anti-racist protests.
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    People who voted 'Yes' could elaborate maybe?

    Except for synthesis, of course.

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