Israeli flag appropriate?

[Bala Perdida]

The Jewish people have suffered for a long time. In recent times they have been the victims of very harsh aggression, and this hasn't gotten any better since a state was proped up claiming to represent them as their homeland (them and only them). This has negatively made sympathy for Jewish people decrease. The Israeli state terrorizes and excercises it's tyranny over an ethnic group, while wearing the symbol of another ethnic/religious group. This puts criticism on a strict careful line. If you say Israel (as a state), Israeli (referring to the government i.e. Israeli policies), and especially Zionist then it's okay. Israel is a state (legimate or not) and thier government is Zionist, so that's simply criticism. But when you say Jew or Jewish policy or Jewish government, then your basically bashing an ethnicity and religion in a form a racism called anti-semitism. Also when we call the Zionists "fascist nazis" it sounds to me like when the right calls the Bolivarians "communist dictators". So in this case I guess the Israeli state to us is like Cuba is to them, a close match when you look at some details but not as extreme as they/we are making it seem.

[Rafiq]

Israel is one of those cases where we are assured of capitalisms contradictions. Israel is a case in which the current alternatives constrained by global capitalism simply make any solution to the problem nonexistent. In other words, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will never be solved within the parameters of the capitalist mode of production, only through Communism, only through the abandonment of the national identity and the triumph of proletarian consciousness on an international level can a solution be found. It is unlikely that on it's own Israel will experience a proletarian revolution. Israel, among others, will tail politically countries which hold the greatest amount of influence on it, namely, the United States. An American revolution would almost certainly assure an Israeli revolution.

[IBleedRed]

Israel is one of those cases where we are assured of capitalisms contradictions. Israel is a case in which the current alternatives constrained by global capitalism simply make any solution to the problem nonexistent. In other words, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will never be solved within the parameters of the capitalist mode of production, only through Communism, only through the abandonment of the national identity and the triumph of proletarian consciousness on an international level can a solution be found. It is unlikely that on it's own Israel will experience a proletarian revolution. Israel, among others, will tail politically countries which hold the greatest amount of influence on it, namely, the United States. An American revolution would almost certainly assure an Israeli revolution.

Don't underestimate the radical left in Israel. I would say there are many Israelis who have a highly-developed consciousness of the way capitalism works. In fact, it's been well known for a long time that Israelis have strong anti-capitalist sentiments despite being allies with a country that is the citadel of modern capitalism.

Now, anti-capitalism doesn't mean Marxian socialism, but it has usually manifested itself within "leftist" movements in Israel and represents serious revolutionary potential.

[keine_zukunft]

In a purely German context it sort of can be and if you ask most people who do fly an israel flag at antifa demos like r.a.f flags too it's really done as a provocation to the nazis that they infact didn't exterminate the jews. However i personally wouldn't do it myself i will stick to my red flag. As for the anti-germans i think you will find most do not support actions of the state and do have a boner for the idf but do think that in principle a jewish state existing is a good thing. those sorts of hardliners who uncritically support Israel are a thing of the past and plus hardliners wouldn't go on a demo nor would they associate with antifa either.