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No, it's too ironic.
Zionism is just the awful ideology that's replaced fascism. Nothing to celebrate and certainly not anti-fascist in that it shares so many similarities with fascism (e.g. nationalism, oppression of a religion, exploitation of a region, etc.)
FKA Chomsssssssky, Skwisgaar, The Employer Destroyer, skybutton
Sorry, I meant to vote "no," but I pressed the wrong button – my dumb mistake, for which I apologize. The State of Israel is injustice personified, injustice highly armed, probably with nuclear capability, unfortunately. Waving that blue and white banner is something very like cheering for apartheid, except that apartheid has been defeated, while Zionism continues to wreak havoc against the Palestinians. It's difficult to think of anything more inappropriate, at an anti-fascist gathering, than waving the Zionist flag.
If we really want to transform life, we must learn to look at it through the eyes of women. – Trotsky, 1923
The ballot box is the coffin of class consciousness. – Alan Dawley
Proud member of the 47% since 2010 – Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt euch!
Fascism and Nationalism are two sides of the same coin, you can't have one without the other. I identify as human, nothing more.
Racial pride leads to racial tension, I try to avoid that. Most people here at RevLeft are against Racial Nationalism, while at StormFront everyone seems to think we believe in double standard racism (white pride=bad, everything else=good).
I don't believe in double standards at all. You can't have true equality with double standards.
Amen. It doesn't hurt to emphasize that we are opposed to all forms of racial nationalism, and not just white nationalism. Now to be fair, many black pride and Hispanic pride groups in the U.S. are not racial nationalist groups who believe interracial marriage is evil. The problem with WNs is not that they want to be proud of their heritage, but that they think interracial marriage is bad, and that all non-whites should be kicked out of white countries, even if that means having to emigrate back to a backwards dictatorship where they're going to be persecuted.
Not only that but when you and your parents were born in the country then they would already be adjusted and assimilated to it. Hwck my high school was a pretty much a rainbow and people got along just fine. Race-baitors in the media/social media are the ones responcible for racial tensions. It's funny because WNs like to pretend (ambiguous) to play the victim card and use words victims use such as "bigot, close-minded, backwards" whenever it's convenient. That's funny because to me nothing is more bigoted than hating (don't sugar coat it) people
based on ethnicity or skin color.
As I mentioned before, racism from and against anybody is wrong!
that was the point of this thread to see how any would vote yes.
I just realized how amusing it is that by engaging in "anti-fascist" activities, socialists are doing the exact same thing that the fascists advocated by espousing class collaboration between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie out of some imaginary "political necessity," often imperialist at its core.
"to become a philosopher, start by walking very slowly"
Agreed. Zionism is just Nazism with another name and face. Nationalism of any kind cannot fit into communism/socialism. Nationalism will only create division.
Symbols meant to represent unity such as the Hammer and Sickle, Red Flag, or just a nice red star would suffice.
Just a quick question, what about a Soviet Union flag?
Of course, with the pro-Zionist groups like the English Defence League you're more likely to see the Israeli flag flying on their side...
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life.
Between these two classes a struggle must go on until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession of the means of production, abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth."
It's use is limited to Germany, where neo Nazis have adopted the anti imperialist rhetoric of the new left. 'Anti imperialism' today has become reactionary, however the use of Israeli or American flags to combat them is pathetic and only reaffirms the nonexistence of an affirmative Left, it is no wonder you find so many racist antigermans, it's because there is a silent form of solidarity today between the European far right and Israeli nationalism only with the exception of Germany, whose neonazis perfectly embody the dissolution of any progressive anti imperialism inherent to Communism today (post 90s), the only progressive form of anti globalization that has ever existed was in the Zapatista movement, the rest were ultra reactionary. It's no wonder Maoists tend to be so damned socially conservative, raving on about bourgeois decadence.
Antigermans are confused, they see what many on the left cannot, yet decide to address it through bullshit like this.
[FONT="Courier New"] “We stand for organized terror - this should be frankly admitted. Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution. Our aim is to fight against the enemies of the Revolution and of the new order of life. ”
― Felix Dzerzhinsky [/FONT]
لا شيء يمكن وقف محاكم التفتيش للثورة
What the hell are "anti-germans"?
"We must flee from Time, we must create a life that is feminine and human - it is these imperative objectives that must guide us in this world heavy with catastrophes."
Jacques Camatte, Echos from the Past
"For example, to say that the relation between industrial capital and the class of the wage workers is expressed in precisely the same way in Belgium and Thailand, and that the praxis of their respective struggles should be established without taking into account in either of the two cases the factors of race or nationality, does not mean you are an extremist, but it means in effect that you have understood nothing of Marxism."
Amadeo Bordiga, Factors of Race and Nation in the Marxist Analysis
[FONT="Courier New"] “We stand for organized terror - this should be frankly admitted. Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution. Our aim is to fight against the enemies of the Revolution and of the new order of life. ”
― Felix Dzerzhinsky [/FONT]
لا شيء يمكن وقف محاكم التفتيش للثورة
Okay. So what do they see, in your opinion, that the rest of the left doesn't?
(like other wiki articles, this isn't really fleshed out and is to be taken with a grain of salt)
"We must flee from Time, we must create a life that is feminine and human - it is these imperative objectives that must guide us in this world heavy with catastrophes."
Jacques Camatte, Echos from the Past
"For example, to say that the relation between industrial capital and the class of the wage workers is expressed in precisely the same way in Belgium and Thailand, and that the praxis of their respective struggles should be established without taking into account in either of the two cases the factors of race or nationality, does not mean you are an extremist, but it means in effect that you have understood nothing of Marxism."
Amadeo Bordiga, Factors of Race and Nation in the Marxist Analysis
Their 68er parents?
The reactionary degeneration of anti imperialism, for one.
[FONT="Courier New"] “We stand for organized terror - this should be frankly admitted. Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution. Our aim is to fight against the enemies of the Revolution and of the new order of life. ”
― Felix Dzerzhinsky [/FONT]
لا شيء يمكن وقف محاكم التفتيش للثورة
Pretty sure the people waving the flag on that particular protest are using it (however naively) as a symbol of Jewish identity against a group of people who advocate the extermination of the Jewish race.
Doesn't look like a "far-leftist" protest either. You don't necessarily have to be an anarchist or communist to want to clear a bigoted, racist group of redneck stormtroopers out of your town.
Antisemitic bullshit like this makes me want to wave an Israeli flag and hold up a portrait of Theodor Herzl while wearing a Tottenham football shirt.
I would bring a red flag. I think people should keep National Flags out of Political Rallies and use them at national holidays or at The Olympic Games.
I agree
