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    "The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts. He ascribes all his failure to get on in the world, all of his congenital incapacity and damfoolishness, to the machinations of werewolves assembled in Wall Street, or some other such den of infamy."
    —H.L. Mencken
    I do not hate "groups." I only "hate" individuals, without grouping races or ethnicities together. Now, when I was on Stormfront, I ran into plenty of idiots who were definitely worthy of scorn. The thing that really frustrated me was when I stuck to using scientific and logical arguments against white supremacy, and some folks would still call me a pseudo-intellectual. I used good arguments, I was civil, I didn't rely on guilty white liberal emotions. I only relied on science and logic. There was one time when I asked someone some questions pertaining to white supremacy, dealing with the Columbus Ohio crime study, and the lack of white inventors from Latin America compared to Europe. And guess what? No one answered my questions. The thing is, if you don't answer your opponents' questions, you lose the debate, plain and simple. White supremacists, and all types of supremacists, are pathetic, worse-than-pseudo-intellectuals. It's as simple as that.

    Now, here's the deal Racial Consciousness. I'm not sure where your post came from, but the thing is, if you want to discuss issues such as affirmative action, welfare, the black crime rate, and etc, and etc, you don't have to be a white nationalist Hitler worshiper. If you want to have reasonable discussions about these issues, it's not required of you to oppose interracial marriage or to ban all non-white immigrants to Europe or America. Most of us Rev-lefters don't fit the stereotypes you'll find on Stormfront. We don't support genocide of any kind, and we don't hate white people more than any other races. It's just that we recognize that there are things vastly more important than race, such as common values, common goals in life, common struggles, and other such similarities.
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    3. The Judicial System is stacked up against Whites

    Minorities are more likely to put in jail for a certain crime
    Minorities receive longer sentences in prison


    • Neo-Nazi rallies usually if not always receive the highest of protection from Law enforcement. Which usually ranges from SWAT teams to armed soldiers.

    Counter protesters against the Neo-Nazis are actually hit with pepper spray by the police force
    Riot Control is armed to teeth to protect Neo-Nazis


    • As opposed to civilians protesting financial greed (at Occupy Wall Street), who receive minimal protection.



    Edit: If Neo-Nazis ever rally again, simply ignore them. If you rally by default you are doing it because you want attention (whether it be positive or negative). Just don't give them attention at all.
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    http://listverse.com/2013/12/04/10-i...hapes-society/
    this is a good article explaining a lot of the disadvantages black american's face from cradle to grave
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    There are people who want to feel good about themselves because of their racial identity.

    There are people who want to feel good about themselves when their favorite football team wins or when their country wins Olympic gold medals.

    There are people who want to feel good about themselves when their choice of operating system, browser, or gaming console is "proven" to be the better one.

    I would say that one thing these kinds of people share is a low sense of self-esteem. They don't have any personal reasons to feel good about themselves, or their society / social circle will not give them any personal reasons to feel about themselves as individuals, so they seek to boost their own self-esteem by identifying with some group, and hoping to latch on to some of the "glow" given off by that group.

    It's all pretty silly in the end though. Just because your favorite sports team wins, that says nothing about how superior you are. In some ways, it's a pitiful attempt to grasp at any straws that they can to boost their own self-esteem. In another sense, it truly is deserving of pity, in that they live in a society where their emotions are controlled by others in such a way that they cannot find peace within themselves, and feel the need to latch on to some arbitrary group just to achieve some semblance of happiness.
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    4. "The Southern Poverty Law Center is vehemently Anti-White and Pro-Zionist Jew"


    SPLC - Jewish Defense League



    The NBPP is notable for its anti-white and anti-Semitic hatred.
    "I hate white people. All of them. Every last iota of a cracker, I hate it. We didn't come out here to play today. There's too much serious business going on in the black community to be out here sliding through South Street with white, dirty, cracker whore *****es on our arms, and we call ourselves black men. … What the hell is wrong with you black man? You at a doomsday with a white girl on your damn arm. We keep begging white people for freedom! No wonder we not free! Your enemy cannot make you free, fool! You want freedom? You going to have to kill some crackers! You going to have to kill some of their babies!"
    — King Samir Shabazz, head of the party's Philadelphia chapter, in a National Geographic documentary, January 2009

    SPLC - New Black Panther Party

    Although the Southern Poverty Law Center recognizes that much black racism in America is, at least in part, a response to centuries of white racism, it believes racism must be exposed in all its forms. White groups espousing beliefs similar to black separatists would be considered clearly racist. The same criterion should be applied to all groups regardless of their color.
    SPLC - Black Separatists
    "The Southern Poverty Law Center is a Europhobic hate group"

    SPLC - Hate Group List

    The SPLC has a number of hate groups. While it does have a plentiful list of White Nationalist and Supremacists groups, not once do they list White people as a whole as being "z0mg evil".
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    For those who complain about how the white supremacists constantly get so much more money than we do, just remember that the ADL still trumps everyone, including Stormfront.
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    "White people are losing their jobs and homes to affirmative action!

    Yeah, I don't believe any sensible or reasonable person would support a discriminatory prejudice and inconsiderate program like Affirmative Action (with the exception of it's beneficiaries, i.e. the Elite who ends up paying the employee less anyway).

    http://www.newser.com/story/169631/why-elites-love-illegal-immigration-cheap-labor.html
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/11/opinion/frum-immigration-income/
    http://articles.latimes.com/2007/sep/26/opinion/la-oe-sander26sep26
    http://sundial.csun.edu/2011/09/study-finds-minorities-with-college-degrees-earn-less-than-whites/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_wage_gap_in_the_United_States
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1247344/Ethnic-minority-staff-paid-10-white-workers-Trevor-Phillips-equality-watchdog.html

    "It's not politically correct to be racist to white people!"

    Not everyone is politically correct...
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    just remember that the ADL still trumps everyone, including Stormfront.
    While it's understandable that victims of genocide would want to do everything they can to prevent it from happening again (especially if the genocide was recent), different tactics would of course have different degrees of success.

    While media control can both promote and discourage genocide, ultimately it's a question about media control itself, not a battle over who has control, but how media is structured that allows those in power (whether "good" or "bad" guys) to enforce their ideas.

    It's the same with relying on, say, the United States as the sole guarantor of your security. Even relying on multiple "superpowers" for security is merely a bandaid on the problem. You don't prevent genocide by convincing the local cop (or cops) to stop genocide, it has to go much deeper than that.

    Why do most societies have laws against murder? Why do most religions say murder is immoral? I would say if you can't answer that question convincingly for yourself, then you really don't know what you're talking about - blind fear is not conducive to forming effective strategy - especially not effective longterm strategy.

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