Left-Wing Fascism?

[Zukunftsmusik]

He didn't suddenly reject his entire worlview - within his earlier thinking's were the tools to justify fascism.

If you believe this to be true - was Sorel ever a revolutionary? And this is the point: All the groups and individuals you mention weren't a part of the workers' struggle because they had these weird ideas about "revolutionary nations" etc. They were, as you rightly point out, closer to fascism or some sort of proto-fascism, but using revolutionary rhetorics. This still doesn't mean that fascism was born out of the far left. It was merely using its clothes.

[Forward Union]

If you believe this to be true - was Sorel ever a revolutionary? And this is the point: All the groups and individuals you mention weren't a part of the workers' struggle because they had these weird ideas about "revolutionary nations" etc. They were, as you rightly point out, closer to fascism or some sort of proto-fascism, but using revolutionary rhetorics. This still doesn't mean that fascism was born out of the far left. It was merely using its clothes.

Sorel said something along the lines of 'I write what I want regarding any issue that confronts me but I have no idea if it could be combined into a coherent set of thoughts" . He drifted from Monarchism, to Republicanism to Syndicalism and then some form of anti-Marxist Utopian Socialism. He was a romantic, not an enlightenment philosopher. I'd Say Fascism developed from an alliance of the Utopian Socialists and Romantic Nationalists. So yes, Sorel was once a revolutionary, but never a materialist like us. For us it's hard to imagine such a shift, but for the Utopians it's quite possible.

[UncleLenin]

Mussolini's Fascism was not racist or anti-Semitic you know, in fact many of the top Fascist party members where Jewish. Many people think that Fascism is racist but it is not. That is National Socialism, which may be considered a form of Fascism but it is not Fascist in the purest sense. In Mussolini's Italy, immigration was allowed as long as the immigrants were willing to contribute to the nation. Contrary to common belief, Fascism is not extremely right wing but rather centrist. Many industries are nationalized under Fascism. In fact Mussolini was a Marxist in his youth, his father a devout Socialist and in fact he was named 'Benito' after a Socialist revolutionary from Mexico.

I AM NOT A FASCIST. AND I AM NOT DEFENDING IT, I AM MERELY MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THE FACTS. I AM ACTUALLY A MARXIST-LENINIST.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Yet Mussolini happily sat idly by and supported Hitler's far-right National Socialism. Why would a supposed 'centrist' support the far-right?

Why would a non-racist supported a regime that purported the most blatantly horrific, racist policies one can think of?

Give me a break, Mussolini was happy to turn a blind eye to racism, just like any other fascist.

[Per Levy]

Mussolini's Fascism was not racist or anti-Semitic you know

of course it was racist and antisemitic there is absoloutly no doubt about that:

http://www.andreafedi.com/216/doku.p...ifesto_of_race

[Per Levy]

Many people think that Fascism is racist but it is not. That is National Socialism, which may be considered a form of Fascism but it is not Fascist in the purest sense. In Mussolini's Italy, immigration was allowed as long as the immigrants were willing to contribute to the nation.

i wonder how the ethopians and lybians were treated under the "nonracist" rule of facist italy over them. did they had the same rights as italians, were they seen as human beings or as inferior races that needed italys chains to be civilized?

Contrary to common belief, Fascism is not extremely right wing but rather centrist. Many industries are nationalized under Fascism.

so? since when is nationalization something leftists? or centrist? social conservatives to monarchists and fascists, all of them rightwing ideologies, have nationalized industries.

In fact Mussolini was a Marxist in his youth, his father a devout Socialist and in fact he was named 'Benito' after a Socialist revolutionary from Mexico.

and? what does that has to do with anything? that doenst make italys fascism any less rightwing, antiworker and anticommunist.

I AM NOT A FASCIST. AND I AM NOT DEFENDING IT, I AM MERELY MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THE FACTS. I AM ACTUALLY A MARXIST-LENINIST.

well some of your "facts" are wrong though, fascist italy was racist, antisemitc and extremly rightwing.