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Monarchy Fetish
Just watching the news seeing all the hubbub about the royal birth, can anybody from the UK (or any country with popular monarchs for that matter) explain why the monarchs (and anything related to them) are so popular?
I could understand the royal wedding given its fairy-tale nature but seeing all this fuss being made over this child just seems crazy.
My current theory is that they are like nationalists in that they have no achievements of their own so in order to feel some pride or identity cling to the actions of their ancestors and nationals.
Am I even close?
I've got a library book that's like Kate and William's baby.
It's overdue and I'll end up having to pay for it.
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Liked the "republican" button on the guardian website, clicking it makes all references to the royal family disappear...
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You are right in the sense that certain types of reactionaries believe in monarchy as they do in the "nation". Said catagory stands in the tradition of wilhelminian Germany where the rise of nationalism as a new political force went into a conservative direction, allied with the monarch.
The popcultural phenomenon of monarchy today on the other hand is more about romantic perception of aristocracy which is not really political. Mainstream fans of William and Kate are not interested in feudalism or something, they "admire" them as if they were pop stars.
Without revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement. - V.I. Lenin
Did ya hear about Disney's proposal to buy out the UK? The UK would be renamed the "Magic United Kingdom" ...
I wonder what would happen if someone killed the monarchy off?
i actually prefer al the antiquated fairy tale bullshit over our own "lets try to be modern" monarchy.
the more silly and antiquated it all looks the more people will resent it...
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
I'm glad you pointed this out. To me, it is incredibly disturbing. Nobody in the UK seems to be able to grasp the fact that they are literally worshiping a family of inbred fascist scum. A family that has done absolutely nothing for anyone in the UK, who lives off of the wealth of their "precious" bloodline. That is awful. And now this poor baby will be brainwashed into a fascist sympathizer from birth.
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In 10th century Burma, King Theinhko ate a farmer's cucumbers without permission. The farmer killed the king and took the throne.
Monarchy is the opiate of the English ...
I'm hoping when the Queen dies, that republicanism rises quickly because of Big Ears, and we can get rid of them, but the obsession with William means people will probably want him to be King instead.
Even here in America people take a bizarre interest in it. Somehow we all learn that Parliament taxed the shirts off our backs, George III was crazy, and the British were mean in 1812 and sacked Washington, but the monarchy became awesome again after Victoria.
That's actually a really good simple way to put it. Americans only hate the idea of the old British monarchy. Now they see it as a just a smiling friendly family who has graciously given up political control and acts as some honorable figurehead to unite Britain. It's ridiculous, but that's how people in America view it.
"If you consider that the things that we are doing in the people's interest represent manifestations of communism, then call us communists" -Che Guevara
In 10th century Burma, King Theinhko ate a farmer's cucumbers without permission. The farmer killed the king and took the throne.
This, maybe when the monarch isn't an innocent looking grandma it won't be so cute.
Then you'll hate your king like the Spanish.
oh, but i'm pretty sure that they are already planning on skipping a generation for a long time, now that they have their "heir and a spare" (price harry ofcourse never counted for the spare since everyone with the faintest idea of genetics can see that the redhaired is a bastard and so not of "royal blood") even more so.
there is no other reason why the queen is holding on so long.
we/you dont get to elect our rulers but they do...
all of course under the fluff of "modernizing" and "rejuvenating" (read preserving) the monarchy
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The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
What would happen to the monarchy's image if somehow, someday, Scotland became independent?
I've always hated the idea of the Crown and that whole tradition. It sounds and is stupid. However I am sure comrades in the U.K. hate it more than I
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We want to wage nuclear war on the nuclear family.
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who says that they wouldnt keep the monarchy, just like canada and the rest of the commonwealth?
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
Not much really seeing as Salmond loves the Queen and they would keep her as their monarch
I thought it should've been the bourgeois liberalism that rid us of royal families?
We can never count on those bastards...
Not much. The Queen is still reasonable popular in most of Scotland (but looked at like a demigod by Loyalist/Sectarian/Rangers types). The Queen spends large amounts of time at Balmoral Castle but you'd hardly notice. Scotland doesn't obsess over them like the rest of the UK or US does but they are still liked for the most part.
Some 50% of Scot's feel Scotland would be worse without the royals while 36% say the country would be better.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ma...record-support
