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Socialists and 'socialists' language skills
Let's post the language skills of various political figures. I'll start with a few.
1. Stalin; spoke Georgian (native language) and accented Russian. Tried to learn German but quickly gave up.
2. Mao; spoke the Hunan dialect of Chinese (native language) had trouble with Mandarin, the national language. Didn't speak a word of any other language although had an English tutor.
3. Che Guevara; Spanish (native language) and spoke French. Spent some time in the US, had terrible English, never learned it.
Now these are easy ones, it gets trickier with people who spoke many languages, like Marx and Lenin. Can someone post which languages they and other political figures knew?
I'm interested which languages Kim il-Sung knew. He spent many years in the Chinese party, spent some time in Russia as well. Does anyone know? There must be some sources for this from all his meetings with the Russians and Chinese.
Fidel Castro: Spanish (native language) and English, although very shy to speak it. Perhaps not at a high level since he insists all English books be translated to Spanish before he reads them. Good command and comprehension of conversational English nonetheless.
Stalin learnt English by listening to church sermons.
Lenin spoke German, French and English, (plus his native Russian) and was willing to lecture in all bar English.
Segui il tuo corso e lascia dir le genti.
Socialism resides entirely in the revolutionary negation of the capitalist ENTERPRISE, not in granting the enterprise to the factory workers.
- Bordiga
Didn't Engels speak like about 2 million languages or something?
Is this resistance or a costume party?
Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.
fka Creep
Engels wrote freely in English, French, Italian; he read Spanish and almost all Slavic and Scandinavian languages.
-Trotksy
As far as I know Stalin as a Russian Orthodox seminarian had to learn Old Greek. Later on he was reading Plato in original language.
Your assertion is laughable. I like how you prefaced it though.
Stalin had issues constructing grammatically correct phrases in Russian. He sure as hell wasn't reading Plato in the original.
Before this thread derails with some outrage over Stalin's language skills, this thread reminds me of a something I recently read in one of Marx' letters:
"As a relaxation in the evenings I have been reading Appian on the Roman Civil Wars, in the original Greek text. A very valuable book."
Is this resistance or a costume party?
Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.
fka Creep
Deng XiaoPing: Sichuan dialect of Chinese (native language), terrible mandarin. Studied in France yet spoke no French.
Add him to the ignorant pile of bumpkins.
Appian was ethnically Greek (altho born in Egypt), and even if he were not, it was not unusual for Roman authors to write in Greek rather than Latin
Marx as Classicist interests me. where are his letters published?
Complete works of M&E, several volumes dedicated to letters.
I thought Engels knew exactly nine languages
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They also are on MIA.
Is this resistance or a costume party?
Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.
fka Creep
Che also studied Russian at the Russian Embassy while in Mexico, however he had to learn from a French-Russian textbook, as no Spanish-Russian existed. And he also enrolled in Russian language classes which were organized in Cuba after that Revolution. The text that I have doesn't state whether he ever gained fluency or not, just that he studied it thoroughly.
Source:
Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life by John Lee Anderson.
Also, Trotsky spoke Russian and Ukrainian, and according to some sources he spoke French. He did speak at least a little English and a little Spanish during his lifetime, but wasn't fluent in either. Mixed sources stating his fluency/speaking of German.
"We cannot be sure of having something to live for unless we are willing to die for it." - Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
Lenin also knew Latin. It was his favorite class in his primary schooling. He attempted to teach it to his sister when they were both young.
"We cannot be sure of having something to live for unless we are willing to die for it." - Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
Lets not post outright lies here mate.
1.Trotsky knew German, he lived in Vienna for over 10 years for goodness sakes. And he knew French and English although he spoke them with an accent. lol @ 'according to some sources he spoke french" theres video of him speaking french for goodness sakes.
2. Che did not speak a word of Russian, he was a fanboy bumpkin.
"Yo fuck this guy's sources I'm going to sling ad hominem at the topic because I'm right and fuck you."
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Relax there mate. His source says Che tried to learn Russian, I do not doubt this and accept it as fact. Did he actually learn enough Russian to be to read a basic sentence or even engage in small talk? No, obviously he did not.
holy shit i have never seen a topic this bad nor met a user as idiotic as CatsAttack.
i hope i got infracted for this post because it will illustrate even further how ineffective the moderation team is.
