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Have you guys ever asked this question?
It's obvious that they're probably not Marxists because they conspire with the coporation.I thought that the main enemy of communism is big coporations,but RATM worked for Epic Records which is a big music coporation am I not right?
The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.
-Karl Marx
"Always be capable of feeling... any injustice committed against anyone anywhere in the world."
-- Che GUEVARA, in his goodbye letter to his children
America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.
-Josef Stalin
I doubt anyone actually believe they were.
The whole RATM and big record company idea has been explained so many times. Had they stayed with a small record label, they wouldn't have been able to have their music spread to such a large audience and they wouldn't have been able to spread their political message.
There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
So they're really not Marxists,I knew it!
The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.
-Karl Marx
"Always be capable of feeling... any injustice committed against anyone anywhere in the world."
-- Che GUEVARA, in his goodbye letter to his children
America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.
-Josef Stalin
i think there anarchists, aren't they?
i may disagree with what you say but i defend to the death your right to say it - peter griffin
wait a second i shouldn't be sitting here drinking tea all stylish like!!!!
No I've read their interviews and they say they're communists but they're really not.
The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.
-Karl Marx
"Always be capable of feeling... any injustice committed against anyone anywhere in the world."
-- Che GUEVARA, in his goodbye letter to his children
America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.
-Josef Stalin
the original members of Rage Against The Machine are/were all marxists. the fact that they sold out changes nothing. i wish they hadn't sold out. but they did. there is a plus though... i probably wouldn't of ever heard them had they not. by the way... any other former Rage fans who can't stand "audioslave"? they are so bad now that Zach is gone.
"The day we hang the capitalists, they will try to sell us the rope."
-V.I. Lenin.
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.56
what happened? why did zach leave? im sorry but i kinda completely forgot, so...
TragicClown: "i'm not though...i'm how like, every conservative christian father would want their daughter to behave"
Intelligitimate: "The bible has gang-rape in it...I like the Bible."
"The right to enslave is a positive right." - Tungsten
"The hand-mill gives you society with the feudal lord; the steam-mill society with the industrial capitalist." Karl Marx
People who cheated me out of a mathematical proof: Jazzremington, Severian, Che y Marijuana
im a little fuzzy on the details, but either he left because the band was not living up to his political vision of the band, or they kicked him out because he wasn't living up to their standards. either way, RATM will be missed. they were true legends.
"The day we hang the capitalists, they will try to sell us the rope."
-V.I. Lenin.
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.56
i actually like Audioslave alot more than RATM.
Zach left RATM for personal reasons. You could have seen it comming though, they almost broke up while recording thier albums. With someone like Chris Cornell, one of the best vocalists ever, the other guys are able to get more done, they already had half of thier next album (left over from recording the first album) in the can before they even played live. It took RATM four years and a near breakup to get Evil Empire done. Plus I enjoy Audioslaves lyrics a lot more, who cares if they arent political, they are very deep lyrics.
Long Live Audioslave and Chris Cornell
Yeah, Chris has some real deep lyrics. Especially Exploder, What you are, and Like a stone.
And he has one of the best voices in rock.
They might not carry a political message in their music, but the members are still into activism etc...
soundgaren r better than audioslave an ratm together
They have done what Marx and Engels did. Engels owned a factory so he could use the surplus value of the worker's labour to publish their books.
Formerly known as Chairman Mao
Between the people and their enemies there can be nothing in common but the sword; we must govern by iron those who cannot be governed by justice
~Saint-Just
I condemn the dust of which I am made, this dust that speaks to you now. It can be persecuted, it can be brought to death. But I challenge the world to take from me that part of me which will live through the centuries and survive in the skies.
~Saint-Just
also if you didnt know engel's was marx's landlord when he came to britain
this is going back a bit further, but you know about how they kicked out their drummer for his one man protest at the mtv awards thing,
well does audioslave have that drummer now?
i may disagree with what you say but i defend to the death your right to say it - peter griffin
wait a second i shouldn't be sitting here drinking tea all stylish like!!!!
I didn't know anything about that, atlanicche, more info, please?
The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them. ~Karl Marx
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that was teh bass player and he didnt get kicked out
and he, the drummer and the guitarist r all now in audioslave
h34r:
You're on the internet! You're using the technology of the corporations! You're not a Marxist! Burn him!
We all conspire to a certain degree.
Since, according to their fantasy, the relationships of men, all their doings, their chains and their limitations are products of their consciousness, the Young Hegelians logically put to men the moral postulate of exchanging their present consciousness for human, critical or egoistic consciousness, and thus of removing their limitations. This demand to change consciousness amounts to a demand to interpret reality in another way, i.e. to recognise it by means of another interpretation. The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly "world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives.
Karl Marx
We shouldn't be ashamed by it, we're using capitalism like a weapon against it self.
It's the exact same thing RATM did, they used the big companies to talk to the big crowed
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Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72
Nearest to: Dalai Lama
Well I think they suck, their music is repetative as it is cold. The only truly redeaming feature of RATM is Tom Morello, the guy is definatly a great guitarist.
I also belive it to be impossible for a band to be truly Marxist, as they will always take that Limo etc.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
- Hanlon's Razor
What does mode of transport have to do with politics?
Since, according to their fantasy, the relationships of men, all their doings, their chains and their limitations are products of their consciousness, the Young Hegelians logically put to men the moral postulate of exchanging their present consciousness for human, critical or egoistic consciousness, and thus of removing their limitations. This demand to change consciousness amounts to a demand to interpret reality in another way, i.e. to recognise it by means of another interpretation. The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly "world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives.
Karl Marx
Limo? Expensive? capitalist?
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
- Hanlon's Razor
