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Ever since coming to RevLeft I have been looking for a new tendency. Upon coming here I was informed that, unlike what I had previously believed, democratic socialists DO NOT advocate decentralized economic planning. However, I was told that some libertarian marxist movements, such as council communists, and syndicalist movements such as DeLeonists, do. I want to read more up on these tendencies than I already have. Does anyone have anyone have any suggestions as to where I should look, as far as literature/websites?
Thanks in advance!
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Check out Peter Kropotkin, other Anarchists and council communists such as Pannekoek on marxists.org or spunk.org.
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Trotsky invented decentralized planning and did a lot of the theoretical things which were bastardized. Syndicalism was a failure too, most of the leading IWW members ended up founding the CP USA, which was a good thing until the party went crazy.
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Any specific works from Kropotkin, Trotsky and Pannekoek? Which anarchists -- and which works by said anarchists -- should I be checking out?
Read the program of the left opposition in Russia dude. It completely goes over decentralized planning and how to apply it to a country as backwards as Russia.
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--Carl Sagan
Anarchism and libertarian variants of Marxism both advocate decentralized economic planning. The Anarchist FAQ is a great place to start; they have some very detailed ideas on how an anarchist-communist economy could function.
Google the Anarchist FAQ, click on "What Would an Anarchist Society Look Like?" and read section 1.4.
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I may be missing something horribly obvious, but I can't seem to find it. Would you mind providing a link?
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Kropotkin's book called 'The Conquest of Bread' is a good introductory work.
http://libcom.org/library/the-conque...eter-kropotkin
Courtesy of libcom.org
"Quotations are useful in periods of ignorance or obscurantist beliefs."
- Guy Debord (Panegyric)
"Guided by the Marxist leader-dogmas of misbehaviourism and hysterical materialism, inevitably the masses will embrace, not only Groucho Marxism, but also each other."
- Bob Black (Theses on Groucho Marxism)
"I think that the task of philosophy is not to provide answers, but to show how the way we perceive a problem can be itself part of a problem."
- Slavoj Žižek ("Year of Distraction" lecture)
Hey just go to marxists.org and go to the trotsky section. Everything you need is there. The left oppositions program lays out the decentralized planning.
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"[I]t’s hard to keep potent historical truths bottled up forever. New data repositories are uncovered. New, less ideological, generations of historians grow up. In the late 1980s and before, Ann Druyan and I would routinely smuggle copies of Trotsky’s History of the Russian Revolution into the USSR—so our colleagues could know a little about their own political beginnings.”
--Carl Sagan
I don't think there's an organized tendency that really promotes this as such, although I'm sure others will disagree... On reflecting on forms of socialism which have actually gone down in the past 100 years, whether "Communist" or social democratic, a key problem has been over centralization of economic planning.
I'd recommend Walden Bello's great book The Food Wars for some ideas of the problems of both authoritarian states and markets, and the need to politicize the peasantry as peasants.
Really? Where?
Hmm, I can find no such title.
Nor in the Trotsky section.
Sure you have the title right?
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