and look at this:
"Civil and political liberties"
look who is at the very bottom of the list.
125. China
133. Cuba
135. Korea, North
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GDP (per capita) www.nationmaster.com
1. Luxembourg $44,586.23 per person
2. United States $35,935.02 per person
114. China $4,671.81 per person
159. Cuba $2,307.49 per person
199. Korea, North $989.91 per person
and china, leader of communist countries, is adopting many modern capitalist economic policies.
and look at this:
"Civil and political liberties"
look who is at the very bottom of the list.
125. China
133. Cuba
135. Korea, North
You just can't grasp the concept of Communism can you? There isn't a large salary base, because everything is provided. It's not about salaries. In a true Communist environment, there wouldn't be money at all. Try to read something about it and understand it before you start posting this shit.
Verily poor as we are in democracy, how can we give of it to the world? A democracy conceived in the military servitude of the masses, in their economic enslavement, and nurtured in their tears and blood, is not democracy at all
-Emma Goldman
IWW
True communism is not achievable in today's world, something which the USSR, China, North Korea, and Cuba have proved to us on many occasions.
Your backwards system doesn't work and never will.
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.00
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This has been said here at least 100 times, but I'll repeat it here for you. Pay close attention. .....
RUSSIA, CHINA, CUBA, AND NORTH KOREA HAVE NEVER ACHIEVED TRUE COMMUNISM. THEY ARE NOT COMMUNIST COUNTRIES.
Verily poor as we are in democracy, how can we give of it to the world? A democracy conceived in the military servitude of the masses, in their economic enslavement, and nurtured in their tears and blood, is not democracy at all
-Emma Goldman
IWW
But every attempt to create a true communist society has failed and eventually becomes a totalitarian state. I understand that these were not or ever have been true communist states but the fact remains that the only way to enforce equality is by way of stalinism which in turn becomes a USSR or North Korea.
So you are saying that materialism and wealth (which equals waste) is good?
And of course the lackies of amerikkkan imperialism and sweatshops earn less than $1.50 a day, and live in poverty, face starvation, torture from capitalist dictators.
Under communism, no one starves, everyone has a home, and are guarenteed healthcare.
In the u$a 44 million people have NO health coverage. 4.2 million children live below the poverty line, and our minimum wage is the lowest in the industrialized world.
Not to mention our record of supporting doctators like Saddam Hussein in the 80's. And our genocidal war against Native AmerIndians. And slavery.
The political spectrum in the United States is so narrow and so far to the right that any "election" or "debate" is simply two aristocrats trying to please the sheep who follow them blindly wherever the leader tells them to go.
"There isn't a large salary base, because everything is provided."
No, it is because everyone is lazy and has no motivation to work hard. This is the underlying reason why communism doesnt work.
If you try to provide everyone with everything, people will not work. Then they will have nothing. Understand and learn, disgustapated. Your exact ethos has destroyed nations. It can never work, because it is the exact opposite of human nature.
"earn less than $1.50 a day"
would you prefer that they get nothing, and starve to death?
No, "those who do not work do not eat." IF nothing else encourages them, surely that clause will.
Also, pay attention to the situation of the DPRK and Cuba. Both have guns pointed at them at all sides. No country can develop or prosper if isolated from the rest of the world. Its a miracle they have come as far as they have. And they are SOCIALIST. None ever claimed to be communist. There is no "under communism." No one lives under communism, we haven't reached that stage yet.
As for the legalization plan, we all know how happy, non-dagerous, and productive coke and heroine addicts are. Why, with your trade options, *cough* capitalism *cough* *cough* think of all the money we could make? If legalizing drugs will take away the drug trade, then by that logic we should legalize extortion and then maybe the mafia will go away, or legalize assualt weapons too, and maybe they will just "go away". Hell, why not legalize prostitution too so that there will be no more prostitutes!
Your beloved Che Guevara's ancestors also practiced slavery. Slavery was rampant in Spanish North America.
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I'd prefer it if they were given a crazy little thing called a FAIR WAGE
btw, one billion people in the "free" world face hunger every day, and 200 million face starvation to death in the next year.
The political spectrum in the United States is so narrow and so far to the right that any "election" or "debate" is simply two aristocrats trying to please the sheep who follow them blindly wherever the leader tells them to go.
they are getting a fair market wage. If they dont want to get payed 1.50, then they can go back to their jungle farms and try to make their living the way they always have.
Obviously the factories are a better life than their alternatives.
Wow, so now you're judging people by their ancestors. Pathetic. :angry:
CHINA, NORTH KOREA, AND CUBA WERE ALL FOUNDED BY EGOTISTICAL STALINISTS WITH A NEED FOR AN IDEOLOGY TO BACK THEM UP. LEADERS OF ALL THREE COUNTRIES HAVE ADMITTED THIS FOR THE MOST PART.
THE GOVERNMENT OF THE USSR WAS TAKEN OVER BY EGOTISTICAL STALINISTS, MOST NOTABLY STALIN HIMSELF.
NONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES HAVE EVER BEEN REMOTELY COMMUNIST. WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??!?!?!?!
They tried to be communist. They failed.
Because communism cannot work.
With a leader who's not an admitted egotistical fascist, it would.
Oh please don't encourage his misinformation
Castro has admitted that Communism was just his way of taking control - he wanted power but he never had a true political ideology until Che suggested Communism.
And Kim Jong Il has admitted basically the same thing, less blatantly than Castro.
tell me ortega, why would people work if they had their sustinance provided for them regardless of their work?
Communism cannot work, deal with it.
