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Woolwich beheading
Well ed miliband (our one, not the real one) already mentioned the the Woolwich beheading in the Swedish riots thread, but now that the police are apparently treating it as an 'militant Islamist terrorist attack' or words to that effect (the deceased was a soldier wearing a 'Help for Heroes' t-shirt), I thought it deserved a thread of its own because it's probably going to be a major issue...
It's not terrorism if it does not involve an attack on civilians. But you have to have a particular lack of empathy to pull this off like that, disgusting either way.
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Fuck.
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Since when
Islamophobia is exploding right now.
Some right-wing nut said in response to all this: "When Muslims start a riot now, they should be shot without hesitation." I don't like where this is heading to.
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Got a feeling this is going to play right into UKIP's hands, the BBC have already quoted Farage.
"The governing body of a nation should not be one person nor a group of people but all people, the greatest leader of the world are the masses."
Oh, for fuck's sake. That actually made me feel a little bit sick. Fuck the BBC.
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I know same here, it seems that the BBC think UKIP is the 3rd largest party or something as they have only quoted Cameron, Milliband and Farage.
"The governing body of a nation should not be one person nor a group of people but all people, the greatest leader of the world are the masses."
It's an interesting case actually because i think it probably does qualify as terrorism, the attack was politically motivated and they tried to get as much attention as possible by inviting people to film it and take photos.
That the target was a soldier doesn't matter because the intent was still to influence the opinion of the population by terror.
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So the UK just had a taste of the barbarism it exports to Iraq and Libya (and then to Syria) and the media goes into racist meltdown. Well, this is awfully familiar.
I'd wager right now this killer is not, in any way, affiliated with al-Qaeda (wahhabi extremist attitudes to blacks would make a London Met counterterrorism operative blush).
Surreal footage of the perpetrator casually talking to a camera.
Yeah but the meaning of terrorism has evolved beyond merely instigating fear for political reasons. If not, breaking into a house of a political opponent is terrorism, or spitting at a political opponent is.
Soldiers fighting each other is not considered terrorism because it does not involve civilians.Since when
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I have to admit that i'm crying inside rather badly at the amount of hateful bastards who are already using this horrific act of violence as a way to tar all muslims with the same brush. Really sad scenes from someone living in England. Stormy times ahead
I'm not sure if most people agree with that, nor would I consider 2 extremists running over an off duty soldier before cutting him up in the street to be "soldiers fighting each other"
U.S. + 9/11 = Bush. U.K. + Woolwich Attack = UKIP. History repeats it's self again.
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They're also claiming to have more than 3000 new 'likes'...
Tell me about. Some people are calling for "civil war". that f**king scares me tbh
Facebook is full of kneejerk morons blaming Pakistanis even though at least one of the attackers is black. Not surprised to see the EDL take advantage of the attack.
Well, if this perpetrator ends up being a Muslim the media'll have a field day with it. With the protests/riots in Sweden and the Boston bombing the anti-immigrant nuts and islamophobes will have a field day.
I'm surprised that this ends up being called an act of terrorism this quick though without actually confirming who did this.
Just heard about it from a friend, local radio station apperently made it out to be some kind of horrific world-changing event.
A soldier was murdered- this wouldn't even make news if it wasn't an opportunity for western media to reinforce everybody's islamophobia. It is literally insulting how fast they are to throw around the phrase "terrorism".
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Ehh to be fair the two guys carried out a brutal murder in broad daylight on a busy road, they then hung around the body waiting for police to arrive inviting people to film them and take pictures, ITV news had a clip of one of the attackers justifying it because of what happens back in his country and urging people to overthrow their governments
It's not really surpising that firstly, it's made the news, and secondly that it's been labelled terrorism
Sorry for coming in an editing this post but I've put it in spoilers because it's really distressing - Sam_b
Last edited by Sam_b; 22nd May 2013 at 21:19.
