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As much as I'm glad they got rid of the death penalty, I don't see how "life in prison without parole" is really going to help. Violent criminals are violent as a result if the material conditions around them. You're not going to keep people safe from this by ruining the life of criminals who only result from the world around them anyways.
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Not that I disagree, but I think that abolishing global capitalism in its entirety probably goes a bit beyond the authority of the Maryland state legislature.![]()
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I'd take death over life imprisonment any day.
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Would you be prepared to let others make that choice for you? That's really more the issue, here.
disgusting
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petronius, the satyricon
your a sick individual bro.
Everywhere it is the police who do the whipping and the one in rags who gets whipped. And then the people who sit smugly at their well-laden tables are surprised when someone rocks the table, overturns it, and shatters everything to fragments.
I even dont get why a communist would say something like this. i realize that a lot of angst-ridden lefties like to fetishize revolutionary violence and terror, but it's not often that you see one blatantly supporting the actions of a bourgeois state (especially something like capital punishment). let me guess: you support penal labor too?
If it was a dictatorship of the proletariat, it would be, but this is a BOURGEOIS state. Who do you think they'd use the death penalty on during a time of revolution? hmmm.. maybe communists like us!
disgusting
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
Death penalty supporter logic: we should kill that guy who killed a guy to stop killings.
Both irrationable and unjustifiable.
Just as two wrongs do not make a right, two deaths do not save a life.
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It's nice they've decided not to kill criminals, but then life in prison without parole isn't exactly better. The whole prison system, especially in the US, is really fucked up.
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There's no question that it doesn't SOLVE much. As others have stated, the system itself is messed up and criminals are usually so because of the conditions around them.
That being said, it's always a good thing when the state no longer has the power to decide whether or not it wants to do something reactionary and barbaric and kill you.
I would respond to this but I can't understand how someone could come to this conclusion. Elaborate maybe?
Capital punishment has no place in communist revolution, the judicial system is a cornerstone of bourgeois society. kangaroo courts and shit aint gonna be in my revolution
Nah, don't be a liberal.
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Fuck does any of this have to do with "revolutionary violence" or "revolutionary terror" or "angst"? I don't believe that there is such a thing as "revolutionary violence", there is just violence and no violence. "Revolutionary terror" is another stupid idea. The two big famous examples, the Jacobin Terror and the Bolshevik Terror, weren't "revolutionary". The Jacobin Terror was a war measure. The Red Terror was a war measure as well. I live in Europe and I don't foresee a civil war or an external war happening here in response to the proletariat launching a revolution, so this "revolutionary terror" stuff doesn't concern me in the least.
As for why I, a communist, would say something like that, and "blatantly support the actions of a bourgeois state", well, I can gladly explain. I think the state has many useful social functions. Fighting fires, for example, or education, healthcare, whatever. Exacting justice on the likes of first-degree murderers is another one, in my opinion.
And yes, since you asked, I do support penal labour, as a part of a broader punishment-and-rehabilitation process.
That doesn't really make sense.
I) If a communist commits a crime that carries with it a death penalty, like first-degree murder, during a "time of revolution", I would support the sentence being carried out.
II) If there was a revolution, wouldn't that mean that the bourgeois state was dismantled? Who is "they", then?
III) If the bourgeois state is that desperate, do you think it would need legal sanction to kill communists?
There are more flaws in your argument but I'll just stop right here.
a) Capital punishment predates bourgeois society by thousands of years, b) capital punishment has been abolished in most of the advanced capitalist countries, so it's not the cornerstone of anything, and c) "my revolution"? Good for you...
Great example of a global mod trolling a thread here.
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I wouldn't rule out the possibility that they actually think this.
Is this resistance or a costume party?
Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.
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