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    wheres the evidence?
    What evidence?
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    wheres the evidence?
    Nice reading skills.
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    I don't think these people are Arabs. I think they are from a Pakistani background. The people in Boston weren't Arabs either. They were Chechen.

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    To ignorant people in the west we all look the same.
    I think due to the overall small number of Arabs and their locations of concentration (mostly, i think, in inner London) in the UK means they are unlikely to be the targets of a racist backlash, at least not as likely as, for example, a Pakistani kid in somewhere like Bradford.
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    To ignorant people in the west we all look the same.
    i don't think this is necessarily true. actually, i think people of broadly 'south asian' appearance face more of a backlash than those who appear to be 'middle eastern'. indeed, much anti-muslim racism is directed against "p*kis" -- a racist is more likely to confuse a hindu man from delhi for a pakistani than, say, a lebanese man. purely anecdotal, but my father is - or at least was, his views may have changed - virulently anti-muslim. but his hatred was mostly directed towards pakistani muslims, whilst he'd often point out how similar syrian or lebanese or turkish, etc. muslims appear to us "europeans". strange i know.

    also, i feel like i should point out this isn't a big news story in the uk. it's not going to ignite a race war. yes, the edl will use it to their advantage, but they'd use a muslim sneezing as an example of biological warfare. most ordinary people don't know or care about this.
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    i asked where the evidence was because that looks like a plea bargain deal to me
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    I'm not South Asian. I'm an Arab and I have dark skin and have been mistake for a pakistani or Indian. People will still treat me bad too.
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    i don't think this is necessarily true. actually, i think people of broadly 'south asian' appearance face more of a backlash than those who appear to be 'middle eastern'. indeed, much anti-muslim racism is directed against "p*kis" -- a racist is more likely to confuse a hindu man from delhi for a pakistani than, say, a lebanese man. purely anecdotal, but my father is - or at least was, his views may have changed - virulently anti-muslim. but his hatred was mostly directed towards pakistani muslims, whilst he'd often point out how similar syrian or lebanese or turkish, etc. muslims appear to us "europeans". strange i know.
    Without wanting to state the obvious Islamophobia is directed against different people in different countries, directly connected to which ethnic groups make up the largest portion of immigrants in that particular country. Therefore in the UK in tends to be concentrated against Pakistanis, while in Germany it is against Turks, and in France North African Arabs.

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    Yeah, there's a fair few Turks in my town (even a branch of the TKP, which came as a surprise), and most people just seem to think of them as something like "Muslim Greeks", if that makes sense. Their religion is seen as almost incidental, rather than being definitive as people think it is for Pakistanis.

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