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    Anti-racism is anti-white privileges. The Nazi forgot the privilege part.
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    Anti-racism is anti-white privileges. The Nazi forgot the privilege part.
    Except they might agree with that. They want to "defend white people" from people taking their privilages; since most people don't feel particularly "privilaged" in capitalist society, it's part of their motivation to defend racial or ethnic hierarchies. They see society as a battle between racial groups and so any blow against racism is seen as an attack on them.

    I think we need to counter with how racism also indirectly (or directly, if you're black or an immigrant) hurts all workers and ultimately helps maintain an order where regular people of all groups and identities have less power and are easier to exploit.
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    I`ve just always though the anti-racist=anti-white was a justification for emotional racial hatred. They think the politically correct liberal agenda is a plot for genocide against the white race, some crap like that. They want to believe all non whites are conspiring against. I`m sort of guessing, I really don`t know what these people believe.
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    republicans are not anti-black either
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    You know, I have never gotten why the fuck this is even compared to "white genocide". If that were the case, I'm surprised there are still many white people around today. Who besides the white nationalists of the world would even consider worrying about how one's predominantly white country is supposedly being flooded by immigrants or how the public is supposed to accept their culture and background? Many non-white nations embrace a lot of the cultures and foreigners a lot of the time, so there should be no reason why the white nations shouldn't be able to do the same. Along with that, the theory that immigrants of all races all around the world are planning to destroy the entire white race is just so fucking ridiculous on all levels of rationality.

    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-racist. Nothing more, nothing less.
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    Why anti-racist ISN'T a codeword for Anti-white!

    That depends upon who you're talking to.
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    What if it is anti-white, so what? If whites can't handle the truth of the cancer of white racism then it is their own fault. Almost everything I see connected to anti-racism is aimed at whites and I am fine with that (but then, I'm not white). This thread sounds strangely like white people trying to have their whiteness and fight it too. Choose sides, you're going to have to in the end anyway because we non-whites are going to force you to choose. It's our world, you just dominate it.
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    What if it is anti-white, so what? If whites can't handle the truth of the cancer of white racism then it is their own fault. Almost everything I see connected to anti-racism is aimed at whites and I am fine with that (but then, I'm not white). This thread sounds strangely like white people trying to have their whiteness and fight it too. Choose sides, you're going to have to in the end anyway because we non-whites are going to force you to choose. It's our world, you just dominate it.
    Fighting white racism (ie from whites) is not anti-white though. And what do you mean by "choose sides" and the rest after that?
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    Fighting white racism (ie from whites) is not anti-white though. And what do you mean by "choose sides" and the rest after that?
    What I mean by choosing sides is your whiteness or justice.

    The problem with racism is bound up with whiteness. Destroy whiteness and you destroy racism. We have largely done that. Open racists are shot down quickly and pushed to the margins as soon as their racism becomes apparent. Even non-racists are marginalized if they do not tow the line, which I whole-heartedly support.

    Now that we have emasculated whites in general white leftists are going to have to relinquish their own leadership roles, move to the back of the bus, so to speak, and allow people of color to take the reins.

    I don't know what anti-racist whites are thinking, but most people of color see anti-racism as an anti-white movement. After all, nobody in the anti-racist movement is arguing that Japan needs to be more diverse, are they? Hell no.
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    What I mean by choosing sides is your whiteness or justice.

    The problem with racism is bound up with whiteness. Destroy whiteness and you destroy racism. We have largely done that. Open racists are shot down quickly and pushed to the margins as soon as their racism becomes apparent. Even non-racists are marginalized if they do not tow the line, which I whole-heartedly support.

    Now that we have emasculated whites in general white leftists are going to have to relinquish their own leadership roles, move to the back of the bus, so to speak, and allow people of color to take the reins.

    I don't know what anti-racist whites are thinking, but most people of color see anti-racism as an anti-white movement. After all, nobody in the anti-racist movement is arguing that Japan needs to be more diverse, are they? Hell no.
    Are you trolling?
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    Are you trolling?
    What, if you disagree with me I'm a troll?
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    Question: How come when quoting this person the second half of the username is bleeped out? Was there another user named Phálanx who got the mods really pissed off like with Roóster (obviously ignore the accent marks)?
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    What, if you disagree with me I'm a troll?
    Did I say that? No. Did you read your racist posts?
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    The problem with racism is bound up with whiteness. Destroy whiteness and you destroy racism. We have largely done that. Open racists are shot down quickly and pushed to the margins as soon as their racism becomes apparent.
    What? This doesn't happen at all. In fact, most conservatives in government are quite open about their support of institutions that support systems of institutional racism, even though they'll claim that they aren't racist or are doing what's best for the economy. Pile this with the fact that open racists usually aren't criticised (and even welcomed in some communities), and that social attitudes are becoming increasingly xenophobic out of kneejerk reaction to the current economic crisis.

    One of Hungary's largest parties is trying to build walls around fucking Roma communities, and supports 'ethnopluralism' (right-wing happy terms for extreme ethnic segregation). The racism you talk of being destroyed is alive and well.

    Even non-racists are marginalized if they do not tow the line, which I whole-heartedly support.
    What do you mean by non-racists being marginalised? Shooting people with white skin? Nice to meet you, Pol Pot.

    I don't know what anti-racist whites are thinking, but most people of color see anti-racism as an anti-white movement.
    Most 'people of colour' see anti-racism as anti-white? You do know that 'people of colour is in itself a blanket term for over half the worlds' population, right? Are you claiming to speak for nearly 5 billion people?

    My half-sister is not white skinned and she doesn't see anti-racism as being 'crush all whites'. See, I can make anecdotes too!

    And what do you mean by 'anti-white'? The social construct of 'whiteness' and the advantage people within this category have in society, and the historical economic and social repression that polarised Europe in contrast with the rest of the world for many years? If that's the case then I'm totally with you.

    But from what I've read, you seem to be implying something else. Something you would expect from the NBPP - Social Darwinism.

    After all, nobody in the anti-racist movement is arguing that Japan needs to be more diverse, are they? Hell no.
    Where do you get this shit from? People ARE CONSISTENTLY focusing on the massive racialism that occurs in Malaysia, South Korea and Japan. Maybe not in your region, but where I live being against the racial (and often class-based, as in S. Korea) elitism of those countries is a common political position. Racism does not simply extend to the concept of 'whiteness'. It can encompass systematic and social abuse of certain ethnicities by other ethnicities (this can be in groups as well). Examples include the mistreatment of pygmies in central Africa and the marginalisation of Palestinians in Israel. And lets' not forget the modern slavery occurring in the Arabian peninsula with Indian migrant workers.

    Racism is prevalent towards people who aren't connected to the political concept of whiteness, but it is most certainly not exclusive with this concept, even in its' institutional form.
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    Did I say that? No. Did you read your racist posts?
    You insinuated it didn't you. Ah, now I see you for what you are.

    I didn't just read it, I wrote it, motherfucker.
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    Question: How come when quoting this person the second half of the username is bleeped out? Was there another user named Phálanx who got the mods really pissed off like with Roóster (obviously ignore the accent marks)?
    It's because there's a fascist nazbol (nazi-bolshevik) website of the same name (social failanx) which has all these racist twatbags who claim to be communist but are enraptured with nation-states, ethnic segregation and racist concepts such as eurasianism - especially the fascist strasserism that marauded over the British left during the early 20th century. They used to troll a hell of a lot here, hence the censoring of the name.

    This is also why I mildly suspect that this user is some white-supremacist troll. However, if he or she is serious, this Red ******* guy either has a very logical viewpoint on the concept of racism in Europe and the United states (albeit generalised), or is some NBPP fascist pig, depending on what they mean by 'whiteness' and 'marginalisation'.
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    You insinuated it didn't you. Ah, now I see you for what you are.

    I didn't just read it, I wrote it, motherfucker.
    Troll.
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    Looking at that avatar and that sig, my response is ...

    Pussy!
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    Looking at that avatar and that sig, my response is ...

    Pussy!
    *facepalm*
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    What? This doesn't happen at all. In fact, most conservatives in government are quite open about their support of institutions that support systems of institutional racism, even though they'll claim that they aren't racist or are doing what's best for the economy. Pile this with the fact that open racists usually aren't criticised (and even welcomed in some communities), and that social attitudes are becoming increasingly xenophobic out of kneejerk reaction to the current economic crisis.
    Name me an openly racist party or institution in the US that is mainstream? Be realistic. Republicans get called racists all the time by social democrats. what planet are you living on?

    One of Hungary's largest parties is trying to build walls around fucking Roma communities, and supports 'ethnopluralism' (right-wing happy terms for extreme ethnic segregation). The racism you talk of being destroyed is alive and well.
    What the fuck do I know about Hungary or even care? Funny that communism didn't wipe out racism though, isn't it?


    What do you mean by non-racists being marginalised? Shooting people with white skin? Nice to meet you, Pol Pot.
    Non-racist right-wingers and right-wing groups get called racist all the time in this country. I'm all for it. Against my enemies, all methods are good.

    Most 'people of colour' see anti-racism as anti-white? You do know that 'people of colour is in itself a blanket term for over half the worlds' population, right? Are you claiming to speak for nearly 5 billion people?
    Me, my parents, and all the non-white activists I have ever met see anti-racism as an anti-white project. Hell, a lot of WHITE activists see it that way as well. Who are you hanging out with? there is a very unsubtle anti-white message in a good deal of anti-racist, multiculturalist material.

    My half-sister is not white skinned and she doesn't see anti-racism as being 'crush all whites'. See, I can make anecdotes too!
    Your sister should get out more and quit hanging out with you. she might learn something of value.

    And what do you mean by 'anti-white'? The social construct of 'whiteness' and the advantage people within this category have in society, and the historical economic and social repression that polarised Europe in contrast with the rest of the world for many years? If that's the case then I'm totally with you.
    Any construct of white you care to offer.

    But from what I've read, you seem to be implying something else. Something you would expect from the NBPP - Social Darwinism.
    I would say you need reading comprehension lessons, but there's no way you could have gotten that impression unless you are either retarded or fucking retarded. Which is it?

    Where do you get this shit from? People ARE CONSISTENTLY focusing on the massive racialism that occurs in Malaysia, South Korea and Japan ...
    Not in my neighborhood. We don't give a fuck about the Japanese. We fought against Rhodesia, not Zimbabwe. Are you advocating that Zimbabweans be taken to task for reprisals against whites there? I damn sure don't.
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