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    Sure they "exist" but their existence is based on a complete perversion of libertarianism. It's like Christians calling themselves atheists. It's an illegitimate existence which in reality doesn't exist.
    I'm afraid it's just something that North American anarchists have to deal with and explain. Revolutionary Marxists have to qualify what they mean when they say "socialism" for similar reasons.

    Unless a left libertarian movement emerges, until a non-Stalinist communist movement emerges, the common meaning of these the terms, "libertarian" and "Communist", are just going to be defined by others.

    Before the civil rights movement, the mainstream view of Southern blacks often portrayed people as passive and happily subservient - it took a movement to change that perception (both in progressive and reactionary directions). Even during early civil rights, the mainstream common knowledge was that the north had no "race problem" and it took riots and the emergence of militant black power movements to alter that idea. Leftists are going to be seen as out of touch rich kids or old men, the working class is going to be seen as white straight men in overalls until revolutionary and working class struggles re-define (and self-define) these preceptions. It's just a lot of explaining for us until then.
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