It seems a bit over the top. I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed the attack not realizing that it wouldl be such a large attack, but it's hard to believe they knew exactly what was going to happen.
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KAM303A.html
A friend of mine showed me the "Global Outlook" magazine he bought today and it was full of this theory--most of the articles centered (or centred since it's a Canadian publication) around this assumption!
Frankly, this is just too much for me to handle...the case for revolution etc. is strong enough without such a horrible thing. The fact that a government could get away with this and keep it secret makes revolution seem almost impossible!
Are these guys absolute cranks or what?
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It seems a bit over the top. I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed the attack not realizing that it wouldl be such a large attack, but it's hard to believe they knew exactly what was going to happen.
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Quite a few people on this board have posted about the 9/11 conspiracy theory. In all honesty I don't know whether there's a shred of truth in this at all, but one thing that strikes me as odd is how all the people who write about these theories seem to be complete plonkers.
There was a thread in chit-chat about this, how these believers in conspiracies such as these always like to put things in caps and accepted terms in quotation marks. What makes all these theories hard to believe is the irrational and nonsensical viewpoint from which the conspiracy theorists present there arguments.
None of them objectively look at evidence and draw the logical conclusion that its a 'cover up' ; they instead seem to suddenly think 'ah a conspiracy' and try to prove their view with any scrap of evidence, usually dubious that they can find.
One of the worst examples is the moon landing documentary when it's like, 'In ALL the moon landings the landscape looks REMARKABLY similar: COINCIDENCE?' They forget to realise that the moon actually DOES all look gray and devoid of, well anything.
Anyway, back to the central point, the link you posted seems to me to be full of holes. It said that the planes could not make a hole that size in the pentagon, that explosives were planted. Now if you were planning a conspiracy to fly a plane into the pentagon would you think 'hey Colin, would it be more believable if we made the hole larger?'
The article also claims that the towers could not be collapsed by burning jet fuel..... Well, perhaps they couldn't but there is the issue of a massive plane striking the building as well which tends to help the damage along its way.
The article even wrongly describes the event as a 'hoax'. Now come on, conspiracy or not it wasn't as if the planes didn't hit it at all and were actually fake planes, the guy needs to sort his defiinitions out.
We can't be sure whether or not 9/11 was a cover up or not but I think it is entirely plausible for the official explanation to be largely true.
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Besides the fact that this is sickening in the extreme, how could you beleive this shit with the evidence presented?
Every night when I can't go to sleep I listen to Coast to Coast with George Norrey (spelling?) on a local station. Just about every night he has all of these people on who are coming up with (not this, obviously) all kinds of conspiracy theories. Its bullshit, but entertaining at that. Last night, the topic was the murder and replacement (I wish!of Paul McCartney in the late 60's. His guest discussed it for several hours...
Anyway, I can see very little of what this has to do with science or environment, so I'm afraid I'll be moving it. Since its sort of a toss-up, I'll let you tell me where you'd like to see it go, antieverything (I'm thinking Theory).
Besides, it will become much more of a discussion in a more crowded place like that anyway.
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What I was looking for was a response to this shit on scientific grounds. Many of the arguments are supposedly based on science...whatever, just delete it or move it to chit-chat.
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oh, I'm sorry man, It'll stay.
I just wasn't sure what you wanted to happen. It's all good, though
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True or untrue, interesting theories...
I'm always looking for stuff like that to listen to on the radio, but theres not much. Which stations it on? I'm not downtown, I wonder if I could get it.
Yes they are right already.
But lets talk about the South tower.
Most of the fuel burns out in the building and the plane doesnt even damage the center steel pillar.And the fuel doesnt even matter.The fuel fire cannot melt the steel and there wasnt even enough fuel.The towers was made to stand for the crash of boeing 707.
but it wasnt a 707 it was most likely a 757 or better, and the planes had plenty of fuel since they were flights planned for non stop cross country.
only thing about the incident i dont understand is how after 2 planes crash into towers in New York, a plane was able to get that close to the Pentagon without causing some sort of alert.
707 is lighter than 757 but 707's speed is faster than 757's.When 707 crashes into tower it makes 10% more damage than 757.
Here is a good link
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anyway, there is one thing I can't beleive about the 9-11 setup. Apparently, the hijackers only received rudimentary training for cesnas or other small crafts. How then, could they so accurately direct an Airplane about one hundred time larger flying 150 mph above what the plane was designed for and horribly close to the ground (generating lift, no doubt)? Coming in even closer to the ground for the pentagon attack.
They would have to line up a building with the aircraft while travelling at a mile every six seconds [(600mph) x (1hr/60min) x (1min/60sec). Avoiding all other obstacles in the vicinity, staving off the passengers (we're not sure what happened at this part, really), and hitting the buildings dead on is a pretty amazing feat for a blue angels pilot, let alone somebody who just clocked in a few hours in a recreational plane before deciding to kill so many people.
That guy writing this report doesn't seem very bright, though.
What if he's right? Wouldn't that be scary...
of course, he's failed to refute Osama bin Laden claiming responsability for the attacks...unless he is really allied with the U.S. against Russia (That's why we haven't caught him yet). In fact, he helped turn over Saddam (who was really bigfoot in disguise)!
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Yes this is how plane should have strike in pentagon
But what happened here?
No aircraft trails on the ground.
There was a massive coverup surrounding the 9-11 events,but this article misses everything. I don't know where to begin, so much of what is in the media is blatant disinformation. Saddam Hussein blew up the WTC in 1993, Osama bin Laden is a CIA sting operation, the WTC was the secret police HQ in New York. In case you haven't clued in after 30 years, you really cant fly to the Moon; if they can make you believe that you can fly to the Moon, they can make you believe anything. When was the last time Abdullah Ocalan or George Habash got interviewed on 60 minutes?
It all makes sense....
All the same, nevertheless, there's a point.
Someone left the gas on...
What does it matter if it is scientifically expalined that they couldnt do it.
http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html
And dont try to argue that the steel weakened enough to cause the collapse of the towers.The officials found melted steel on the ground.
Well, the Taliban planted bombs in the structure once.
Couldn't they have done it again? I mean, once those planes hit, I'm sure the last thing they were doing was sending bomb teams in to check it.
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It was a truck bomb in 1993.You are talking like the Talibans planted the bombs inside the building to the crucial parts.Besides you should use Al-qaeda word.
But yes you are right.Towers were bring down by the bombs.
The people who blew up the WTC in 1993 were Iraqis, there is no connection between Afghanistan and any of this.
US intelligence seems to have had this idea, of using airliners as weapons, pushed onto the backs of all influential officers desks about a year prior to the attacks.
the so-called PHOENIX DOCUMENTS identified the method and delivery of these weapons, as well as potential sources. now the person who "drafted" these ideas, who was apparently a female, believed that if she were a male her "projections" would have been taken more seriously. the truth, or defence, as listed by the CIA, that her conclusions were based on what they called "voodoo" intelligence. no facts, only projections, and for that reason were not taken seriously.
however, based upon the SIMPLE logic of this attack methodology, no furthur evidence would be required. the brass in the US intelligence community were, simply, caught up in their COLD WAR methodology and unable to creatively see the validity of these projections. much like rome after the THIRD PUNIC WAR, america is unable to handle new forms of warfare. ie. phalanx and calvary VS. legion OVER barabrians running around and refusing to consider their own cassualties because they were too fucking drunk to know what they were doing. similarly, american supersonic stealth bombers VS. suicide attacks.
the cycle duplicates, just as the USA was born through guerrilla combat against the british, it could very easily fall to the evolution of suicide attacks.
the only conspiracy is that US intelligence is still in COLD WAR mode and unable to infiltrate the ranks of the cultures that deploy suicide weapons against them.
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