Ret, if you have a bone to pick with the Nepali Maoists than please start a new thread instead of derailing this one.
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As quoted above;Interesting to see that even within Baidya's new Party there is still rank'n'file concern about privileges enjoyed by the Party elite. These have usually manifested as capitalist behaviour - ie a personal and collective accumulation of great wealth.
The Telegraph's satirical political commentator notes below that, even as Baidya & co talk of " defeating imperialists and expansionists" and "Indian expansionism", they boast of fraternal greetings from the Chinese CP and are happy to have a member of the Chinese ruling class - the Ambassador - as honoured guest sharing their platform. Gone seemingly are the definition of 'revisionist counter-revolutionary capitalist-roaders' that Maoists have long used for the present Chinese CP; Baidya's Party is now cultivating ever-closer links with them. (Even as Chinese capital penetrates ever-deeper into, eg, Africa, to exploit its proletariat*.)
...But Chinese bureaucrats are fine to have on the platform.
*On Chinese economic 'imperialism and expansionism';
Ret, if you have a bone to pick with the Nepali Maoists than please start a new thread instead of derailing this one.
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Surely this thread is not now only for those uncritical of Nepali Maoists? Historically that hasn't been the case and I don't see why it should be so now. But if that's your intention start a new thread called "uncritical worship of Nepali Maoism". To point out glaring contradictions in the Baidya faction's activity is not "derailing" - especially when you are happy to do the same in regard to the Dahal/Bhattarai mother Party, which I don't have a problem with you doing.Originally Posted by Godless
It is a news thread and that is how I would like it to stay. You can post all the arguments you want but I am not going to respond because I do not want to derail it of its intended course.
I will ask a Moderator to split the thread with your comments.
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That's not true. You can go back to earlier pages and read that it has long been a news thread where news is also commented on - I don't see a problem with that. It doesn't mean you have to participate in that or stop what you're already doing - but nor that you should come along and decide 'what the thread is' for others or what "its intended course" is.Originally Posted by Godless
Split from the Nepal Newswire. TGU is correct, the newswire threads are meant for 'breaking' news to be posted. If you see a news item you'd like to discuss please quote it in a new thread.
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people should be wary of the bourgeois press and its reports on revolutionaries.
the characterization of the reasoning for the presence of the chinese ambassador is very incorrect here - this may be due to the hostile politics of the author of the original thread (what in some contexts might be referred to as "hating").
there is a discussion unfolding on kasama right now about the presence of the chinese ambassador - i suggest people check it out, it has contributions from comrades on the ground in kathmandu.
http://kasamaproject.org/2013/01/12/...ommunist-road/
Some people just never learn from their own mistakes - all the opportunism that helped lead Dahal & Bhattarrai's mother Party into their present situation - eg, the diplomatic games with India etc - is being created in mirror image by the Baidya splitters - and by their followers. And, predictably, the Western pro-maoists are already coming out with the same kind of lame excuses for it. Just as they did for the strike bans, wealth accumulation by the Party elite etc of the mother Party (even though the policies they once defended but are now implied to be 'revisionist' were present from the beginning of the 2005 Party program).
For Maoists, there was generally previously nothing more explicitly anti-Maoist, revisionist and counter-revolutionary than the Chinese CP for its role in ending what Maoists called 'socialism' in China. And during the Nepali guerilla war the Chinese CP denounced Prachanda & co as 'not real Maoists' and supplied weapons to the King to use against the guerrilla PLA (see here for revleft maoists righteously denouncing it; http://www.revleft.com/vb/chinese-re...934/index.html). Yet in the blink of an eye, for the sake of simple political opportunism (characterised as 'necessary realpolitik') against their more pro-India Maoist rivals, all this is forgotten and Baidya's Party are proclaimed by their devotees as great revolutionaries while getting into bed with the same people they denounced for decades as the worst "capitalist roaders" who crushed Chinese Maoism.
Just as they were led by their uncritical devotion into years of loyally defending and excusing the most blatant hypocrisies and reformism of Prachanda's Party, now they begin the same process with Baidya's operation. All in the name of 'necessary realpolitik' of course (but then, if pragmatism's a valid justification for Baidya & co, surely it's just as valid excuse for Dahal/Bhattarai's dealings with India?). If it had been Dahal & co now sucking up to China then the pro-maoist revlefters & kasama-ites would probably be shouting in chorus; 'Ah-ha! Yet more proof of their evil revisionism!'
And so black becomes white. As Marx said, "First time as tragedy, second time as farce".