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    German activists start campaign to destroy surveillance cameras

    By Samantha Kimmey
    Sunday, January 13, 2013 21:05 EST



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    German activists are attempting to destroy security cameras in anticipation of the European Police Congress in Berlin in February, according to Michael Ebeling, an opponent of public surveillance writing for France 24′s The Observers.
    The group organizing the actions, CAMOVER, believe such cameras lead police to discriminate and use stereotypes in search of criminals and criminal activity. They are encouraging people to participate in the “game” until Feb. 19, when the congress convenes.
    A debate over surveillance cameras was ignited in late 2012 after an attempted bomb attack in a Bonn train station, when cameras did not store recordings of the station and so police had no images of potential suspects or of the bomb being planted.
    The country’s Interior Ministry claims the cameras have been shown to reduce crime by almost 20 percent.
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    This has been something I've been interested in actually, a sustained campaign to destroy and/or severely hinder the survelliance state.

    I think that a lot of non-radicals would support such an effort, too.
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    Can anyone fill me in on what happens at the end of the video? Is it the guy in orange who was on the train with them that starts chasing them? Or is it some type of law enforcement waiting for them to get off?

    Good work, however.
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    There are some pretty cheap 1500+mw infrared laser diodes available online, and I've been thinking of picking one up with a lens assembly for testing what they can do to those surveillance cameras that I legally own (and can therefore legally destroy).

    The risk of eye damage would be pretty significant though..
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    There are some pretty cheap 1500+mw infrared laser diodes available online, and I've been thinking of picking one up with a lens assembly for testing what they can do to those surveillance cameras that I legally own (and can therefore legally destroy).

    The risk of eye damage would be pretty significant though..
    Most high-end CCTV cameras have recalibrating intensity filters against this sort of thing as well as IR-cut filters avoid being blotted out (temporarily) by laserpointers.
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    Yup, piece of cardboard on a stick, or even better a spraycan on a stick are still the most reliable sollutions. Although the paint filled fire extinguisher used in the vid is dear to me too..
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    Epic anarchist activism!
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    Petty vandalism isn't a revolutionary act. It's an infantile act of individualism.

    What is this expected to achieve?
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    Petty vandalism isn't a revolutionary act. It's an infantile act of individualism.

    What is this expected to achieve?
    So what have you been doing lately?
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    Not engaging in ad hominen for a start. What I have or have not been doing is not relevant.
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    Not engaging in ad hominen for a start. What I have or have not been doing is not relevant.
    Protecting radicals from police surveillance (thus giving them an opportunity to increase the struggle), before an upcoming police summit, is totally 'infantile individualism.'
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    I'm glad you agree.
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    I'm glad you agree.
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    What I have or have not been doing is not relevant.
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    You're right, of course.

    I should be winning workers to the cause be acting like a juvenile delinquent.


    I will abandon my work in the labour movement and community forthwith.
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    You're right, of course.

    I should be winning workers to the cause be acting like a juvenile delinquent.


    I will abandon my work in the labour movement and community forthwith.
    Dude, are you a cop? These 'delinquents' are saving many people a lot of fucking trouble.
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    Dude, are you a cop? These 'delinquents' are saving many people a lot of fucking trouble.
    Apparently he doesn't care about workers being fucked over by the state for engaging in class struggle.
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    Dude, are you a cop? These 'delinquents' are saving many people a lot of fucking trouble.
    No, they're bringing the movement into disrepute, they're not saving us trouble they're causing it.

    Undercover cops don't condemn such actions, as often as not they're the ones carrying them out.

    When blows are struck between protesters and cops outside this kind of meeting, whether the first blow is struck by uniformed cops, agent provocateurs or some hot-headed idiot who thinks he's a revolutionary, they point to shit like this and say, "see, they came looking for trouble!"

    And clearly in the case of some they will be right.

    The rest of us, those of us who try to propose non-reformist solutions to the problems faced by workers, do so against the force of such embarrassing associations.

    Apparently he doesn't care about workers being fucked over by the state for engaging in class struggle.
    I'm sorry, I didn't reallise the German proletariat had resolved to resort to vandalising public transport as a means of class struggle.
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    I'm sorry, I didn't reallise the German proletariat had resolved to resort to vandalising public transport as a means of class struggle.
    Generally radicals are members of the working class, seeing as how given their views, they tend not to reinvest capital and employ wage labor. So yes it would appear that a certain segment of the German proletariat has done just that.
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    No, they're bringing the movement into disrepute, they're not saving us trouble they're causing it.

    Undercover cops don't condemn such actions, as often as not they're the ones carrying them out.

    When blows are struck between protesters and cops outside this kind of meeting, whether the first blow is struck by uniformed cops, agent provocateurs or some hot-headed idiot who thinks he's a revolutionary, they point to shit like this and say, "see, they came looking for trouble!"

    And clearly in the case of some they will be right.

    The rest of us, those of us who try to propose non-reformist solutions to the problems faced by workers, do so against the force of such embarrassing associations.
    Dude were fucking communists, were never going to get good publicity. Get over it. I'm sick of seeing people go on railing about this.
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