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The French presence in Africa continues to grow. How can folks look at this as anything but neo-colonialism/neo-white man's burden ideology?
I suppose if you're just trying to "fight the terrorists" then tout va bien?
From what I understand the only native force able to expel AQIM(Al-Qaeda in the Magrehb) and it's local allies and affliates are the secular Azawadi Nationalists. They've said they would only be willing to go after them if the global community recognized their state of Azawad in northern Mali which the international community refuses to do because of the resources in that area(uranium, natural gas, gold, etc). The sick thing is that the president of Mali was in bed with AQIM all the time and let them run around proliferating.
Hahahahahaha. That's a very funny way of saying that the local population is mostly anti-government Islamists.
France still considers a great many African nations to be its colonies.
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Oh, and yeah, I read on a French site that it's not just France. Nigeria and Senegal are also supposedly taking part in this. Or maybe it was Niger; Niger actually borders Mali. But I think the governments of Niger and Mali don't really like each other. I don't know, I'm really bad at African politics.![]()
Ahh taking back control of our rightful soil, I see. It's good to see that our beautiful nation has not been totally overran by Muslims yet. Vive la France! [/sarcasm]
Woah there, give a warning if you're going to be so edgy.
Who oh who will we support in this battle between religious fundamentalists and French imperialists? We must pick a side!
"Imperialist hands off [insert country here]!"
"Win, lose or draw...long as you squabble and you get down, that's gangsta."
in b4 AQIM is touted as anti-imperialist liberating force
"Face the world like a roaring blaze, before all the tears begin to turn silent. Burn down everything that stands in our way. Bang the drum."
you guys do know that the islamists have been on a handchopping, women stoning and Sufi annihilating killing spree right? I'd take imperiast Frenchie's over that anyday. (the tuareg nationalists fucked up by looting early on, capitulating to Ansar Dine and than getting their ass handed to them. They don't have the resources or support to hold down the north)
sometimes people miss the point so widely when responding to posts it actually confuses me.
Until now, the left has only managed capital in various ways; the point, however, is to destroy it.
He was mocking the anti-imperialist types that wet their pants over every group that takes up the defensive against western military operations.
So I guess we can add +1 in support of the former colonial master of Mali.
Seriously though why have France decided to step up their presence?
More imperial intervention, more "leftist" support.
Why not, the "socialist" Hollande will surely liberate women, or something.![]()
To defend their client junta. The islamists have recently become stronger and captured a major town yesterday or the day before.
French neocolonialism is usually overshadowed by American or even Chinese neocolonialism, but it's still a major force of reaction in Western Africa.
Our stance should be to support the military defeat of France and her proxies. Period.
Replace Sufi with Alawite and Christian and you have Syria. But we all know revleft's stance on that.
Actually if we actually examine this conflict, we would discover (as many news papers have been discussing) how this conflict was fueled by NATO intervention in Libya.
This is what I posted at PoFo:
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If we are really in a situation of "well which would be 'less bad' for Mali?" then we're already buying into the French narrative that "We have to do something to alleviate the problem!"
This is a very ahistorical take on the contemporary situation to pretend that the history of French colonialism in a place like Mali is just some historical past that bears no weight on this....
Another thing that's being strangely left out of the narrative by folks who want to paint it as "Well the Islamists are terrible so the West has to fight them" with the lesser evils logic is quite significant. As The Guardian, The New York Times, and The Independent all point out: a major source of this conflict is the instability created by Western intervention in Libya.
This fact alone makes the point of "well the Islamists are bad so we should support France" an absurd point that requires an erasing of even recent history, let alone ignoring the colonial history.
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So to be silent on the question of French/Western imperialism in this case would be quite a strange position for a Leftist to take in my opinion.
Great why don't you move to a french colony and see how great it is then.
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President Francois Hollande says more French troops are to be deployed in Mali to support the 750 in the country countering an Islamist insurgency.
Mr Hollande, visiting the United Arab Emirates, said new air strikes overnight had "achieved their goal".
West African military chiefs will meet in Mali on Tuesday to discuss how an alliance with the French will work.
France began its intervention on Friday with the aim of halting the Islamists' advance south towards the capital.
Late on Monday, the UN Security Council unanimously backed the intervention.
(BBC News)
I saw yesterday on the news that despite the french, the rebels took another city. Does anyone have good sources?
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