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Willing to Learn
Hello and Happy New Year!
I am definitely not a leftist. I'm hear to learn about my enemies. I will be respectful to all of you reds, and I won't complain if you treat me like dogshit. My world was turned upside down when 51% of my fellow Americans went to the polls and voted for socialism last November. I would like to learn about your ideology and see if I am the one who is wrong.
What is my ideology? I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist, more or less. I want almost zero government. I don't mind a little government here and there, (roads, a very small military, one or two policemen) but I want an end to all forms of transfer payments, Social Security, end minimum wage, end public education, end pretty much all taxes, no more jails, I think it would be great! But as I said above, I am here to learn, not to proselytize. Please teach my why Leftism is winning all over the world.
Obama socialist? Leftism wining all over the world?
Where exactly do you think the political centre is?
Maybe before learning about leftist politics or right politics maybe you should start with an excellent book by Stephen D Tansey called 'Politics' it's part of a range of books called 'The Basics'.
The writing style is excellent (especially for beginners into the field of politics) it's clear and concise.
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Leftism winning? Obama is a socialist? I agree with Leon. Either you have a different use of political vocabulary or you don't know as much as you think about politics.
Anyway for whatever you want to know just ask people are willing to help.
As Leon says, if by 'leftism' you mean socialism, then it isn't winning all over the world, it's nearly dead as a political ideology. All you 'AnCaps' (oxymoron of course, you cannot be both opposed to hierarchy and pro-capitalist hierarchy) have to do is continue lying about what socialism means, and before too long you and the Stalinists will have convinced the whole planet that 'socialism' means state control, instead of a classless communal society with no states at all.
Critique of the Gotha Programme, Pt IV: http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm
No War but the Class War
Destroy All Nations
Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC): "A man whose life has been dishonorable is not entitled to escape disgrace in death."
I won't treat you like that unless you say something really messed up, but others certainly will immediately flame you, expect it.
I see how that could be viewed as stressful but relax, Obama is no socialist. Obama's policies are actually neoliberal with a sprinkle of keynesianism. He is fully supportive of private property in the sense of John Locke and draws many of his policies from conservative origins.
He is actually trying to push the biggest expansion of tarriff-free trade that has ever been attempted, bigger than NAFTA. It is called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (another source, wikipedia). This agreement has been called 'NAFTA on steroids'. If you think that any socialist would even consider such a thing then you are mistaken.
All of Obama's policies are those of a capitalist, policies that will keep the power of the bourgeoisie from waning. The rich have not been this rich compared to the poor since the beginning of the Great Depression.
Obama's policies have greatly benefited the capitalists. There is no doubt of that.
Could you go into more specifics? Do you subscribe to the NAP? I can't really respond to these statements as they are since it would take a very long post to cover it.
It isn't really. People are getting mad though.
Society does not consist of individuals but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand. ~ Karl Marx
formerly Triceramarx
The left is winning all over the world?
Those sneaky reds! Here I was talking about a revolution being needed, I look away for one second and suddenly those commie bastards rule the world.
Damn...
Is this resistance or a costume party?
Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.
fka Creep
I feel the same way... So betrayed....
That explains a lot.
If only!
Welcome to the forum.
Go here and read the article posted by Brosa Luxemburg: http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.p...03&postcount=9 It is pretty good and explains very well why Anarcho-Capitalism is impossible. This may teach you why your current ideology is wrong, which would be a very good start.
right back at you.
Why? I´m genuinely curious why you assume this.
"Give me a place to stand, and I will sit on your face."
- Trotsky in the opening speech to the third congress of the Fourth International.
I wish I lived in the same world as you. Oh man.
Welcome, though.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
Does anyone think 'Komrad' will be back?
Critique of the Gotha Programme, Pt IV: http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm
No War but the Class War
Destroy All Nations
Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC): "A man whose life has been dishonorable is not entitled to escape disgrace in death."
hope so
OI is hella bare
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
Location: Aurora, CO
That's the Batman shooting city isn't it?
Obama is no socialist, I don't see the socialization of the means of production in the USA, nor I think I would see it. Obama is a capitalist, he may have used some shot keynesian stimulus to tweak the economy, but that doesn't make his socialist. Also medicare doesn't make him a socialist, because that would mean that Western Europe is also socialist, which is not.
So your paradise on Earth would be something like Somalia or almost any other country in Subsaharian Africa, cool...
Where? Whos idea was to organice a revolution in the middle of holidays?
Sir, you gotta learn politics before speaking about them. I recomend you to first develop your political culture, because you don't even have the basic foundations. Also, if you dont mind, how old are you? Because that can explain a lot.
Para los pueblos de todo el mundo, que luchan por la paz, la democracia y el socialismo, el leninismo es como el sol que trae consigo una vida alegre. - Ho Chi Minh
Comunes el sol y el viento, común ha de ser la tierra, que vuelva común al pueblo, lo que del pueblo saliera
Maoism is (...) Marxism Leninism on cocaine - Rafiq
Pas de liberté pour les ennemis de la liberté - Louis Antoine de Saint-Just
El marxismo conlleva muchos principios que en últimas instancias se compendian en una sola frase: “es justo rebelarse contra los reaccionarios" - Mao Tse-Tung
Die Barrikaden schließen der Strasse aber geöffnet der Weg.
I think this is appropriate.
I hope that you'll be able to see your conception of politics is oversimplified if not inaccurate.
Last edited by Red Commissar; 2nd January 2013 at 23:46.
I'm not sure if this is a troll, or if it's a serious, if there is such a thing, an-cap...
Could you define what socialism is in your own words, and tell us why and how Obama is a socialist and what "socialist" things he has done?
Feeding the troll, most likely. :/
OP, I think you'll find that most here don't think very highly of liberalism or the Democratic party, and we tend to see welfare capitalism as nothing more than a silly ruse. We might have somewhat similar views as liberals on for instance social issues, but how these conclusions are reached as well as how we think our goals should be achieved are very different. In fact, the entire framework from which we approach politics is completely different.To be fair I remember reading a Rasmussen report that something like 30% of Americans thing positively of socialism, and like 11% of communism. But of course that's not what he meant and what the respondents meant by socialism and communism is up for debate.
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"Think for yourself; question authority." - Timothy Lenin
Oh, man. You don't have anarcho-capitalists in Canada?
Lucky, dude.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
If you're looking for people who voted for Obama this last November then you've come to the wrong place, I'm afraid.
