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Didn't know if this was the right forum for this. But either way, no bueno.
Didn't the German Nazi party do something similar back in the 30s? Try and reach out to German diaspora? I think I read that somewhere, maybe not.
Well, I've read in some Facebook group that they opened or plan on opening an office in Spain as well. Though idk how true that is.
Nationalist internationalism? dafuq?
So they want Greek immigrants in an organization that wants an end to immigration? Oh those fash!
Like it is hilarious in a way. They are fucking ridiculous at times. They need a sitcom and a catch phrase.
"What will those crazy fascists get into next?!" Find out, Fridays at 8.
Fucking fascists. I can't really think of anything else . . . Tangentially, of course, is the Black Bloc holding auditions? Not for me of course, for a friend.
In all seriousness though, it is a shame that they have been making gains, but I was honestly expecting it. The leftists haven't been putting out what I expected or what the greek people likely expected. When the Left has opportunities and doesn't deliver other groups have their opportunities. Unless the greek Left does something the fascists will likely have a field-day.
Simply having parliamentary power is nothing.
Society does not consist of individuals but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand. ~ Karl Marx
The state is the intermediary between man and human liberty. ~ Marx
formerly Triceramarx
I think the KKE has something similar somewhere in the US.
Well it makes sense for a communist organization to keep international ties with other communist groups, but not a fascist one. I'm still confused as to how they can sit there with a straight face and scream about nationalism and talk down on immigrants, but at the same time reach out to Greek immigrants in the US.
Thanks, I'm glad my brain wasn't just making random shit up.![]()
It semi makes sense if you think about it more.
The GD wants to reach the Greek diaspora in the US for support, etc.
The Nazis did something similar.
The Italian fascists I think also visited NYC a few times before WWII.
Outside the fascists...
The Puerto Rican Nationalist Party has had some office or cell in NYC, to reach out the diaspora.
There are 2 Korean organizations, one aligned to the South and the other to the North, in Japan that reach out to the Zainichi Koreans.
It's common among certain kinds of political or social organizations and such based from a "home country" to target the diaspora for aid and sometimes recruitment.
What is truly ironic is how they claim they must "stop multiculturalism" in their NYC
website all the while that Greek diaspora make up part of the multiculturalism of NYC...
"My heart sings for you both. Imagine it singing. la la la la."- Hannah Kay
"if you keep calling average working people idiots i am sure they will be more apt to listen to what you have to say. "-bcbm
"Sometimes false consciousness can be more destructive than apathy, just like how sometimes, doing nothing is actually better than doing the wrong thing."- Robocommie
"The ruling class would tremble, and the revolution would be all but assured." -Explosive Situation, on the Revleft Merry Prankster bus
The Italians did have an organization in NYC, they actually functioned (or attempted to) in the same manner as the party in Italy, forming combatant squads and duking it out with communists and trade unionists.
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
Notice how, in this context, they strategically use the term "third-world immigration" as opposed to just "immigration"
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
I've noticed that too...they probably used it as a way to not seem to have double standards due to the fact that their audience in NYC would be immigrants (& family to some degree) as well.
But it also comes off way more racist, at least to me.
"My heart sings for you both. Imagine it singing. la la la la."- Hannah Kay
"if you keep calling average working people idiots i am sure they will be more apt to listen to what you have to say. "-bcbm
"Sometimes false consciousness can be more destructive than apathy, just like how sometimes, doing nothing is actually better than doing the wrong thing."- Robocommie
"The ruling class would tremble, and the revolution would be all but assured." -Explosive Situation, on the Revleft Merry Prankster bus
They also have a branch in Australia and coming november they will probably have one in Spain too...
They must have some strong finances if they are able to open foreign offices and are not even in power in the government. Either they have a lot of paying members and/or some rich bourgeois backers. Either way they're going to try and get the Greek-American community to come through them for donations and such as mentioned already and getting stuff back to Greece for their relatives and taking a cut for themselves for providing that.
It's funny though how they use "third world" immigration though. To some ultranationalists elsewhere, Greece is part of the third world (heck, look at the way the media keeps referring to "southern Europe" when discussing the economy...). I'm pretty sure that early Greek immigrants were treated like trash too coming to the States under the same mentality that Irish and Italians were subjected too, not being seen as from the "superior" stock of Western European nations (ie not "white").
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Now I wonder how Greek-Americans perceive the GD...
"My heart sings for you both. Imagine it singing. la la la la."- Hannah Kay
"if you keep calling average working people idiots i am sure they will be more apt to listen to what you have to say. "-bcbm
"Sometimes false consciousness can be more destructive than apathy, just like how sometimes, doing nothing is actually better than doing the wrong thing."- Robocommie
"The ruling class would tremble, and the revolution would be all but assured." -Explosive Situation, on the Revleft Merry Prankster bus
That's what I would want to know as well. Some of the civic organizations aren't reacting too well to them though, at least the American Hellenic Educational Progressive Association (AHEPA) which is a fraternal organization for Greek expatriates.
http://ahepa.org/dotnetnuke/News/New...in-Greece.aspx
It also goes on to bemoan "extreme" actions from the left and right (on the former "uncivil" disobedience), the usual stuff. But I guess that's one thing from Greek-Americans.
Seriously now? GD in NY too... IN NYC!!!!???!!!!???
where are you when we need you bicycle bomber?
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
This doesn't really surprise me too much. Racism is a lot more prevalent here than people seem to think it is. The only difference is people tend to keep quiet about it unless they're with their own "group." You're not really gonna hear anyone spouting off racist shit on the subway where they could/would get their ass kicked, but go somewhere in Howard Beach or Brighton Beach and chances are you'll probably hear it.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!