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[fug]

It's easy to dance on her grave, but why weren't they tougher back when Thatcher was alive and well and ruining people's welfare?
After all it was the unions that got defeated in the end.

[Blake's Baby]

I don't know what your question means. Why weren't 'they' tougher on her? Do you mean the unions? Do you mean revolutionaries? Do you mean the working class?

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Being a mod means pointing out the rules even in situations where you think it's ridiculous.

Yes, it's a verbal. Do it again and I'll infract you. Not because I want to but because those are the rules, and we can't make exceptions for one person being allowed to use words that would get others in trouble.

And if you still think I'm shitting you, you can take it up with the dear leader himself:

There's something called common sense, clearly which is lacking in a thread where I can get a warning for hurling an insult that I have very clearly not loaded with sexist intent at the most hated figure - bar Hitler - of the 20th century for people like me, yet people can call for the pissing on the grave, dancing on the grave and other similarly ill-conceived ideas of the same person and get away with it?

Surely even you, as a mod, can see how ridiculous a state of affairs this is?

I don't go around liberally using n-words, c-words or b-words, but I would like to think it's very clear that if I do, I don't use them with even the slightest discriminatory intent, so what's the problem? Words are just a social construct. In another world, it could end up that the most sexist word around is 'affection' and that the c-word is the word for making love. It's just letters constructed by people. It's the meaning that counts.

[Rugged Collectivist]

I'm so sick of people whining about respect for the dead. If I didn't respect the person when they were alive, why the hell would I respect them when their heart stops?

The world will be a better place when Thatcher dies. I don't care if her family is upset. That doesn't place her above criticism.

[brigadista]

one thing is for sure - history won't absolve her

[Manic Impressive]

OK, I'm gonna say that, seriously, Vanguard1917 is right. Campaigns about state funerals, and individuals who are now in their 80s and very confused, are completely irrelevant. And yes, sometimes those of us who were political in the '80s act like trauma victims.

Still planning on turning up at Traf Square however.

This^^

Of course Vanguard1917, ed milliband and The Boss are right. They are looking at it rationally. But I submit that we can not do EVERYTHING rationally all the time. It would be great if we could but I allow myself some room to enjoy some petty symbolic vengeance. So I'll be celebrating but I won't be confusing it as a victory or celebrations as a class action. It's just what our American cousins call closure. Closure to a time where the working class were being put through hell and which fundamentally shaped the rest of our lives.

and yeah I think as a simile traumatized victim works quite well

[Q]

To be perfectly honest, I think pissing on her grave is a grand idea.

Yeah, it's not about the person, yadda yadda. But she personified the crackdown of a generation. So, that's my reasoning and I don't care about your moral high horse opinion.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I for one think that's grotesque.

We're fighting the system, not the people.

I find it suiting. All that lies beneath is a pile of decaying matter that wrought misery to innumerable working class peoples internationally. If you're head of an oppressive institution which is responsible for innumerable crimes and death, someone could ballroom dance with Reagan then feed his moldy old bones to the dogs and I wouldn't care. It totally is the person, the system would not function without people, again, if you're head of X organization that commits X many crimes and murders then hey, you're the problem, deal with it. I would induce vomiting for 5 hours on Hitler's grave if he had one.