Thread: Republican Senate Nominee: Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant

Results 1 to 20 of 27

  1. #1
    Join Date Jul 2007
    Posts 12,367
    Organisation
    the Infernal Host
    Rep Power 252

    Default Republican Senate Nominee: Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant

    Republican Senate Nominee: Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant

    Evan McMorris-Santoro August 19, 2012, 2:06 PM



    This post has been updated.

    Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri who is running against Sen. Claire McCaskill, justified his opposition to abortion rights even in case of rape with a claim that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses that prevent pregnancy.
    “First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”
    Akin said that even in the worst-case scenario — when the supposed natural protections against unwanted pregnancy fail — abortion should still not be a legal option for the rape victim.
    “Let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work, or something,” Akin said. “I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”
    Video, clipped by the Democratic tracking outfit American Bridge (the full interview is below):
    A 1996 study by the American Journal of Obstetricians and Gynecologists found “rape-related pregnancy occurs with significant frequency” and is “a cause of many unwanted pregnancies” — an estimated “32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year.”
    In a tweet, McCaskill said she was “stunned” by Akin’s comments.
    After the interview caused a firestorm, Akin said in a statement that he “misspoke.”
    Akin is perhaps the boldest among a crop of conservative 2012 nominees who could hamper GOP efforts to take back the Senate in the fall. Akin has called for an end to the school-lunch program and a total ban on the morning-after pill.
    His claim about “legitimate” types of rape is not completely foreign to the current Republican Congress, however. In 2011, the House GOP was forced to drop language from a bill that would have limited federal help to pay for an abortion to only victims of “forcible rape.” Akin was a co-sponsor on the bill.
    Nor is this Akin’s first time suggesting some types of rape are more worthy of protections than others. As a state legislator, Akin voted in 1991 for an anti-marital-rape law, but only after questioning whether it might be misused “in a real messy divorce as a tool and a legal weapon to beat up on the husband,” according to a May 1 article that year in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
    The PollTracker Average shows Akin leading McCaskill by a margin of 49.7 percent to 41.3 percent.
    Below are Akin’s comments in their full context (abortion question begins around the four-minute mark):
    Source: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...imate-rape.php
    Last edited by Sasha; 19th August 2012 at 22:26.
    The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
    Here at least We shall be free
  2. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Sasha For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Join Date Feb 2011
    Location Barad-dûr
    Posts 2,431
    Organisation
    ISO
    Rep Power 59

    Default

    Holy shit. Fuck this guy.
    "Socialist ideas become significant only to the extent that they become rooted in the working class."

    "If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. . .Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will."

    SocialistWorker.org
    International Socialist Review
    Marxists Internet Archive
  4. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Le Socialiste For This Useful Post:


  5. #3
    Join Date Mar 2008
    Location Florida
    Posts 275
    Rep Power 14

    Default

    Never ceases to amaze me...
    [FONT=Arial Narrow]"Body tissue deprived of life energy turns cancerous. Cancer is the hysteria of cells condemned to death. Cancer and fascism are closely related. Fascism is the frenzy of sexual cripples. The swastika owes its magnetism to being a symbol of two bodies locked in genital embrace. It all stems from a longing for love. Comrades, make love joyously and without fear."

    [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Khrushchev: "It’s interesting, isn’t it? I’m of working class origin while your family were landlords."
    Zhou: "Yes, and we each betrayed our class!"[/FONT]
  6. #4
    Join Date Jan 2012
    Location finland
    Posts 649
    Rep Power 24

    Default



    what
  7. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Igor For This Useful Post:


  8. #5
    Join Date May 2010
    Posts 3,617
    Rep Power 66

    Default

    I can't tell if hatred or ignorance. I don't know which is worse at this point the fact that some people actually might believe this, and the fact that some people don't care.
    “How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” Charles Bukowski, Factotum
    "In our glorious fight for civil rights, we must guard against being fooled by false slogans, as 'right-to-work.' It provides no 'rights' and no 'works.' Its purpose is to destroy labor unions and the freedom of collective bargaining... We demand this fraud be stopped." MLK
    -fka Redbrother
  9. #6
    Join Date Nov 2008
    Location babylon innit
    Posts 2,518
    Rep Power 39

    Default

    what a prime tosser
    R.I.P Juan Almeida Bosque

    "The true focus of revolutionary change is never merely
    the oppressive situations which we seek to escape,
    but that piece of the oppressor which is
    planted deep within each of us.
    " Audre Lorde
  10. #7
    Join Date Jan 2012
    Posts 2,005
    Organisation
    LDD
    Rep Power 43

    Default

    So if these natural defenses do kick in the rapist may not need to be punished? Also this guy might be confusing Women with female ducks which would be funny if this wasn't so scary.
  11. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages For This Useful Post:


  12. #8
    Join Date Apr 2007
    Posts 2,334
    Rep Power 23

    Default

    He claims he misspoke - yet insists that the unborn be carried to term. In his world, women are the equivalent of Borg maturation chambers.
  13. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Lynx For This Useful Post:


  14. #9
    Join Date Jun 2006
    Location England
    Posts 8,376
    Rep Power 74

    Default

    “First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” ... “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”
    I'm willing to bet money this man doesn't understand a fucking thing from doctors.
    Sciences & Environment rocks my bedroom.

    [FONT=Arial]Say what you mean and say it mean...[/FONT]

    "Frankly if we have a revolution and you stop me eating meat, I'm going to eat you."- The inimitable Skinz.

    Be careful, lest the time comes where we have to weigh you against a duck.
  15. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Jazzratt For This Useful Post:


  16. #10
    Join Date Apr 2012
    Location Chicago area, Illinois
    Posts 478
    Rep Power 17

    Default

    FKA: The Mza
    2012 Favorite Noob
  17. #11
    Join Date Dec 2010
    Location Kentucky, United States
    Posts 3,305
    Rep Power 0

    Default

    Ill hunt this fucker down in the night and shove a jellyfish up his ass.
  18. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Ostrinski For This Useful Post:


  19. #12
    Join Date Apr 2012
    Location Chicago area, Illinois
    Posts 478
    Rep Power 17

    Default

    Ill hunt this fucker down in the night and shove a jellyfish up his ass.
    Out of all the things I've heard people say they would shove up an ass, that's the best.
    FKA: The Mza
    2012 Favorite Noob
  20. #13
    Join Date Mar 2012
    Location England, UK
    Posts 977
    Rep Power 0

    Default

    ...nothing really new or insightful to add...just that people this twisted / ignorant, and their supporters, need a healthy and carefully regulated dose of concentrated physical violence...mostly directed on their genitals.
  21. #14
    hysterical man-hater Supporter
    Forum Moderator
    Admin
    Join Date Dec 2009
    Location Wales
    Posts 2,743
    Organisation
    AFed, IWW
    Rep Power 128

    Default

    There are so many things wrong with this, but one thing that really bothers me is the idea of "legitimate rape" which generally means rape where the perpetrator used violence. No kind of rape is any less "legitimate" but I think that it's quite a widespread idea that rape where drink or drugs are concerned is at least partly the fault of the victim. For example this article I read earlier.
    "Her development, her freedom, her independence must come from and through herself. First, by asserting herself as a personality, and not as a sex commodity. Second, by refusing the right to anyone over her body; by refusing to bear children unless she wants them; by refusing to become a servant to God, the State, society, the husband, the family, etc. ... by freeing herself from the fear of public opinion and public condemnation. Only that, and not the ballot, will set woman free, will make her a force hitherto unknown in the world, a force for real love, for peace, for harmony; a force of divine fire, of life-giving; a creator of free men and women."
    ~ Emma Goldman

    Support RevLeft!
  22. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Quail For This Useful Post:


  23. #15
    Join Date Jun 2006
    Location England
    Posts 8,376
    Rep Power 74

    Default

    I'm willing to bet money this man doesn't understand a fucking thing from doctors.
    Turns out I'd have lost that money. Apparently there is a group of hack doctors called "physicians for life" peddling this crap. I think I need to drink myself into a stupor now.
    Sciences & Environment rocks my bedroom.

    [FONT=Arial]Say what you mean and say it mean...[/FONT]

    "Frankly if we have a revolution and you stop me eating meat, I'm going to eat you."- The inimitable Skinz.

    Be careful, lest the time comes where we have to weigh you against a duck.
  24. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Jazzratt For This Useful Post:


  25. #16
    Join Date Jul 2007
    Posts 12,367
    Organisation
    the Infernal Host
    Rep Power 252

    Default

    There are so many things wrong with this, but one thing that really bothers me is the idea of "legitimate rape" which generally means rape where the perpetrator used violence. No kind of rape is any less "legitimate" but I think that it's quite a widespread idea that rape where drink or drugs are concerned is at least partly the fault of the victim. For example this article I read earlier.
    Yup, right on the money. In his "apology" he equaled his legitimate rape bs with violent/forcible rape (like there is any other kind): http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/arc...-rape-comments

    Also one has to be impressed with his ability to use an apology to equal the rape victims he is apologizing to with al-qaida terrorists if they do seek out an abortion. Double down on the crazy mysoginy; GOP 2012
    The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
    Here at least We shall be free
  26. #17
    Join Date Jun 2011
    Posts 946
    Rep Power 37

    Default

    rape is a state crime and in some states the % is estimated to be 5% (a pro-life stat) of all victims become pregnant, but these states are based off all rape victims and in some states men outnumber women by 2 to 1 as victims.
  27. #18
    Join Date Apr 2010
    Location The Great Satan
    Posts 2,146
    Organisation
    CWI
    Rep Power 49

    Default

    Know your enemy.
    To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget

    Arundhati Roy


    Lenina Rosenweg is a glorious beacon of light
  28. #19
    Join Date Aug 2012
    Posts 93
    Rep Power 8

    Default

    A lot of the hand-wringing by liberals about stuff like this sort of bugs me, actually. It seems like in all the fuss over comments like this made by rightwingers, it tends to be taken for granted that denying the right to abortion in cases of rape is something especially bad, much worse than denying it in cases where the woman willingly chose to have sex.
  29. #20
    Rroftë partia! შავი მერცხალი Committed User
    Join Date Feb 2011
    Posts 1,768
    Rep Power 33

    Default

    He looks like he would fit in a Viiieet-nam veeterhun movie. Such a...brain dead.. face.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 24th December 2009, 13:40
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 24th September 2009, 14:00
  3. Republican Senate Candidate A Socialist
    By Unicorn in forum News & Ongoing Struggles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 18th June 2008, 15:30
  4. CIA Nominee Has Dubious Links To Terror
    By Skeptic in forum News & Ongoing Struggles
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 7th July 2004, 04:23

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts