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Quebec fascist protest law in the making
The charest liberal governement is currently voting on the special law 78 to squash studient protest..well protest in general.
Under the new law any group over 25 people who want to protest must call the cops 8 hours in advance and give them the itinerary.
Cops can decide to change the course or to simply cancel the whole thing at will.
Anyone who discuss or publicize public disobedience can and will be fined up to 10 000 dollars.
Studients will no longer be able to protest in front of their school and anyone who participate in interfering with the normal course of the schools will be fined ten of thousand of dollars. If the person belong to a studient union this union will be fined hundred of thousand of dollars.
Mandatory membership to a studient union will no longer be necessary.
Teacher cannot take any kind of action to delay or stop a school course or activiy or they will be fined or fired.
Teacher union have the responsability of every civil disobedience of their member and will be fined accordingly.
I am missing a lot of stuff but that pretty much it.
Its fascist and disgusting.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
wouldnt be a law like this against the constitution or something? i mean this law will make demonstrations almost impossible(i know politicians and ruling class dont care much about a constituion if its in their way). also will this pass? or is there much opposition against it?
All i want is a Marxist Hunk.
It is true that labor produces for the rich wonderful things – but for the worker it produces privation. It produces palaces – but for the worker, hovels. It produces beauty – but for the worker, deformity. It replaces labor by machines, but it throws one section of the workers back into barbarous types of labor and it turns the other section into a machine. It produces intelligence – but for the worker, stupidity, cretinism.
Wer hat uns verraten? Sozialdemokraten!
Fuck the liberal party, can't wait for the party to cease to exist!More protests and refuse to pay the fine!
a LOT of lawmaker are on the case right now, i dont think its constitutional at all.
Any people wearing visible symbol or who encourage people to anyone to disobey this law will be fined, that mean all those folks who are wearing the red square in sign of support for the studients will be fined.
But of course what this stupid authoritarian dosnt realize is how much cops will be needed to enforce it, they dont even care about people talking on cellphone anymore, how do you want them to enforce something even more common than talking on cellphone?
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
This is Totalitarianism pure and simple and reveals the true face of the bourgeois class. Fight it, stand up to it, defy it. Fuck the bourgeoisie and fuck their laws
I heard that wearing any sorts of masks at protests has been banned in Quebec as well.
yea we got that in montreal and in Quebec city.
Quebec city just voted a law prohibiting people to go in the park past 23:00 and setting up a tent in Quebec city is now illegal.
Welcome to a brave new world.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
Authoritarian measures =/= fascism
EDIT:
Also this does not qualify as "totalitarian" by any means, unlike what REDSOX claims. A totalitarian state is only when the state controls all aspects of life rigidly.
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Please forgive me for using that word loosely.
I am fully aware of the difference between a fascist and an authoritarian state, i am just fucking angry.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit -Aristotle[/FONT]
This is not the final version of the law.
They replaced the 10 person limitation to warn the cops, the current number is 50.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
Yeah, 10 person haha i dont know how they came with that idea...
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit -Aristotle[/FONT]
Well i watched the debate about this on the national assembly tv channel and apparently it was originally designed to allow the cops to apply the law faster.
Beyond 50 people it would be verry hard for the cops to know exactly how many protester there is outside.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
We have that law in Serbia for many years. Worked great so far:
Partija Rada
Jedes Herz ist eine revolutionäre Zelle
looool are they applying it?We have that law in Serbia for many years. Worked great so far:
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit -Aristotle[/FONT]
well, that the problem with that kind of stupid law. Unless you call in the national guard or posses a security apparatus has big has an army you cant freaking enforce such thing, and if you do shit are gonna go to hell.
Btw i expect the charest governement to either wait for the movement to die (would be surprising especially if you consider that its growing)or ask to the cops to fully enforce the law like any good police state would and fine everyone, and arrest the rest.
When its gonna happen the breaking point of the conflict will be reached and either the governement or the studient movement will bend to the pressure.
By implementing that special law the governement lost a lot of option for their next move, Charest is playing poker and he might loose this one.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
well the first reaction is threat speech , the second is law will be applied speech , then i am sorry and i understand now speech , that how Ben ali ( EX Tunisian dictator ) did , ( also Mubarak , don't expect much difference , and respect to my colleges students in Canada
Its gonna be somehow different tho. The police apparatus of the province of Quebec is a joke, there is no way they can control everything with the small police force we have, and i dont see Harper allowing the reserve doing anything to help Charest (the reserve forces are not under the control of the province.)
Lets crunch some number:
A province of 8 millions peoples.
7000 provincial police officers.
4000 municipal cops for the montreal area.
700 for Quebec city.
2000 federal cops from the mounties.
Compared to Mubarak or ben ali huuge security force, this is verry small potatoes.
In some case in montreal the provincial cops had to take over some shifts beccause the local cops where just too fucking exausted.
The current police force in the province of Quebec is ill equiped to deal with all that, they dont have the manpower, temporary holding cell or the structure to deal with the situation, and they know it.
Hell, all this cops overtime is probably bleeding dry the discretionary budget they have to deal with emergency situations.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
Indeed.
If the Québécois State has the strenght to enforce it, then Québec is on the way to become a dictatorship - or at least a State under permanent state of siege.
But I doubt they have. If not repealed by courts, which looks likely, it will remain unenforceable.
Anyway interesting to see what kind of liberalism the "Liberal" party adheres to...
Luís Henrique
If they aren't careful, they may get a police strike instead of the quelling of the students' movement.
Luís Henrique
