Thread: Rise of Fascism in Europe & Golden Dawn

Results 1 to 20 of 41

  1. #1
    Join Date Apr 2012
    Location United States
    Posts 344
    Organisation
    I.W.W.
    Rep Power 11

    Default Rise of Fascism in Europe & Golden Dawn

    France: The National Front, led by Marine Le Pen, won nearly 18 per cent of the vote in April's first round of presidential elections. The party is eyeing seats in June parliamentary elections.
    Greece: Golden Dawn is the chief right-wing movement in the country, an openly neo-Nazi party that is one of Europe's most extreme. Could take a dozen seats in May 6 parliamentary election.
    The Netherlands: The Freedom Party, led by Geert Wilders, is the third-largest in parliament - and brought down the minority government by withdrawing support.
    Austria: The Freedom Party, having 34 of the 183 seats in parliament, is the second-strongest party in opinion polls.
    England: British National Party has a policy that restricts membership to 'indigenous British people'. Ten local councillors, a fall from 50 in 2008.
    Germany: The NPD has two of 16 state legislators but no seats in national parliament. Support base in former Communist east German states, where unemployment and discontent is high.
    Norway: The Progress Party holds 41 of 169 seats in parliament and is Norway's biggest opposition party. More moderate than many European counterparts.
    Denmark: The Danish People's Party is the nation's third largest political organisation, and has pushed Denmark to adopt some of Europe's strictest immigration laws.
    Sweden: The Sweden Democrats entered parliament in 2010 with 19 of 349 seats, but has had no major impact on legislation.
    Finland: The Finns party won 19 per cent of parliamentary election votes in 2011 - up from four per cent four years earlier.
    Hungary: Jobbik won nearly 17 per cent of the 2010 vote, and is one of two leading opposition parties.The conservative Fidesz party of Prime Minister Viktor Orban has passed laws restricting civil rights and basic freedoms that go against the country's EU membership.

    Golden Dawn -- The party wants land mines placed on the Greek-Turkish border to stop illegal immigrants entering the country, organizing security patrols in immigrant-heavy neighborhoods.

    “I’m voting for Golden Dawn because I want all the immigrants to leave,” Maria Papageorgiou, 52, said in an interview in the Athens neighborhood where she has lived all her life. “There’s a high crime rate, it’s a miserable situation. They should leave and go back to their countries. Or maybe the Germans can take them.”
    As I see the rise of fascism, I worry for the minorities across Europe. HOW CAN WE STOP THIS!?!? What is the left doing to combat this?
    I am an Anarchist not because I believe Anarchism is the final goal, but because there is no such thing as a final goal. - Rudolf Rocker
    Economic Left/Right: -8.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.84
    [FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Was Known As ProvenSocialist[/FONT]
    Revolutionary Anarchist Blog
    "It will happen to all of us that at some point, you get tapped on the shoulder and told not just that the party's over, but slightly worse: The party's going on, but you have to leave."
  2. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Anarcho-Brocialist For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Join Date Apr 2012
    Location Chicago area, Illinois
    Posts 478
    Rep Power 17

    Default

    Interesting. I don't live in Europe, but wouldn't mass protesting be one of the best ways? I can't think of that many solutions for leftists.
    FKA: The Mza
    2012 Favorite Noob
  4. #3
    Join Date Nov 2011
    Location Finland
    Posts 339
    Rep Power 13

    Default

    Only thing these boneheads understand is violence, that is how you stop fascism.
  5. The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to Krano For This Useful Post:


  6. #4
    Join Date Mar 2012
    Posts 341
    Rep Power 0

    Default

    Interesting. I don't live in Europe, but wouldn't mass protesting be one of the best ways? I can't think of that many solutions for leftists.
    Where I live we had "mass protest" popular fronts against the NPD.

    They don't give a fuck, to be blunt.
  7. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Railyon For This Useful Post:


  8. #5
    Join Date Nov 2011
    Location Finland
    Posts 339
    Rep Power 13

    Default

    It should be noted that not all of these groups are a threat, for example The Finns aka True Finns leadership was bashed after the elections and lost pretty much all credibility. Some of the party members got fined and thrown in jail for ignorant racist comments.
  9. #6
    Join Date Jan 2011
    Posts 248
    Rep Power 10

    Default

    The Danish People's Part is not an "overt" threat, but it does have connections with the Danish Neo-Nazi Party
  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Permanent Revolutionary For This Useful Post:


  11. #7
    Revolutionary Totalitarianism Forum Moderator
    Global Moderator
    Join Date Apr 2010
    Posts 2,240
    Organisation
    The Sex Negative Conspiracy
    Rep Power 67

    Default

    The Danish People's Part is not an "overt" threat, but it does have connections with the Danish Neo-Nazi Party
    I'd say it is quite serious still; parties like them, and the somewhat similar scum of Wilders party and such, are legitimising their political platforms and managing to somewhat enact their policies.
    The revolutionary despises public opinion. He despises and hates the existing social morality in all its manifestations. For him, morality is everything which contributes to the triumph of the revolution. Immoral and criminal is everything that stands in its way.

    ex. Takayuki
  12. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Sperm-Doll Setsuna For This Useful Post:


  13. #8
    Rroftë partia! შავი მერცხალი Committed User
    Join Date Feb 2011
    Posts 1,768
    Rep Power 33

    Default

    The utterly digusting religious Fascism is on the rise here.
  14. The Following User Says Thank You to Omsk For This Useful Post:


  15. #9
    Join Date Jul 2011
    Location The Powderkeg of Europe
    Posts 1,679
    Organisation
    Partija Rada (Party of Labour)
    Rep Power 61

    Default

    Fascists are on the rise all throughout Eastern Europe especially, Slavic nations which suffered terribly at the hands of the Nazis now have neo-nazi hooligans running around in the streets. It breaks my heart considering how many of my family members suffered at the hands of the nazis.

    It is in my opinion that a far more aggressive and militant stance than anything Antifa has to offer needs to be taken to counter these fascists. We need to be in the streets in a far more concentrated and aggressive effort to break the backs of the neo-nazis both figuratively and literally if need be.
    Last edited by ВАЛТЕР; 7th May 2012 at 17:59. Reason: typo
    Domovina u srcu je govno u glavi.

    Partija Rada (Party of Labour)

    Antifa Novi Sad



  16. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ВАЛТЕР For This Useful Post:


  17. #10
    Join Date Jul 2011
    Location Portugal
    Posts 846
    Rep Power 0

    Default

    Here in Portugal only few old people and even fewer young people want dictatorship back, the big majority is against this, and against this government, 40% of the population didn't vote in the elections, therefore ,democraticaly, there should be no government in Portugal.

    I am prety sure anarchism is rising in Portugal, I have seen many anarchist symbols show up in the street, my generation is learning that government is good for nothing and only serves to empoverish people. The communism the people here know is leninism/stalinism, (when I told my father about anarchist communism he said those were not compatible because communism is authoritarian) when I teach people anarchism they instantly become interested, but if I say communism they want nothing to do with me, they feel like communism is not the answer, that is one of the reasons anarchism (in my generation) is rising.
  18. #11
    Join Date Dec 2003
    Location Oakland, California
    Posts 8,151
    Rep Power 164

    Default

    This is social polarization. The center is loosing credibility and so this opens up possibilities for the far-right and far-left. And we haven't seen anything yet.

    So while people are right to be concerned by the legitimacy and gains of the far-right (and of course the actual street-violence and attacks on Roma, Eastern Europeans (in Northern Europe), Arabs and North Africans) I wouldn't say this is "fascism on the march" - it's just polarization like most of us haven't seen in our own locations in our lifetimes.

    Like I said, I think it will get sharper, so what we need to do is organize our side now so that we can be in a better position to resist and and oppose the far-right both on the streets and in the public dialogue and politics and also when Tahrir-like uprisings happen in our own locations our class will be more organized and able to put forward independent working class demands.
  19. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Jimmie Higgins For This Useful Post:


  20. #12
    Join Date Nov 2011
    Location UK
    Posts 516
    Rep Power 14

    Default

    In the UK, the main far-right party is the British National Party (BNP).

    In the early 1990s, its members numbered perhaps 800 at most, and these were mainly bonehead boot boys. Since then, it has attempted to gain 'electoral respectability'. It has an MEP (Nick Griffin, also the BNP leader), no members in the British Parliament, and did have some councillors in local government. However, its support has come crashing down in recent times. There are internal feuds, and most (if not all) of the local councillors, lost their seats in the local elections on May 3 this week.

    Additionally, there are several other political parties, most notably the National Front, and the avowedly neo-nazi, the British Peoples Party. But these are very, very small, and really only empty shells.

    There is also the English Defence League (EDL), not a political party, more a campaign and rallying group. And recently a new party was formed, the British Freedom Party. Tommy Robinson, the EDL Leader, has been invited to come onboard as the BFP Deputy Leader.

    The threat from these groups is currently small. But as Jimmie Higgins rightly points out, the left need to be aware, and be ready to mount a defence against these groups, should their numbers advance in our respective countries.

    Given the very severe austerity measures in the UK, essential services being cut to the bone, rising unemployment and social security benefits under assault, the ground for far-right development could prove fertile.
    Charity is a woefully inadequate means of partial restitution

    Oscar Wilde, from his essay 'The Soul of Man Under Socialism'
  21. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Left Leanings For This Useful Post:


  22. #13
    Join Date Jul 2011
    Location The Powderkeg of Europe
    Posts 1,679
    Organisation
    Partija Rada (Party of Labour)
    Rep Power 61

    Default

    Capitalism in decay.

    We shouldn't really be surprised. I admit I am disgusted, but really we should have seen this coming and nobody here should be shocked by the outcome. People when they feel threatened often become very tribal.
    Domovina u srcu je govno u glavi.

    Partija Rada (Party of Labour)

    Antifa Novi Sad



  23. #14
    Join Date Nov 2011
    Location UK
    Posts 516
    Rep Power 14

    Default

    Capitalism in decay.

    We shouldn't really be surprised. I admit I am disgusted, but really we should have seen this coming and nobody here should be shocked by the outcome. People when they feel threatened often become very tribal.
    Very true.

    In Britain, in the 1930s, we had the rise of the scumbag Oswald Mosley and his thugs in the British Union of Fascists (BUF). He was effectively given the bum's rush.

    I hope if the fash today make anything like the progress Mosley and the Blackshirts made, then we will see them off again.
    Charity is a woefully inadequate means of partial restitution

    Oscar Wilde, from his essay 'The Soul of Man Under Socialism'
  24. #15
    Join Date Aug 2011
    Location Michigan, U$A
    Posts 1,252
    Rep Power 20

    Default

    I completely agree that fascism is on the rise and is a real threat to Europe and needs to be taken care of. But isn't fascism and fascist parties banned in Germany?
    Yes, we want to make your wife a radical feminist lesbian, we want to forcibly gay marry you to a leatherclad bear, we want to send your kids into white slavery at the court of a black communist dictator, we want to paint your church red with the blood of christian babies, we want to set fire to your ikea and your SUV, we want to rape your labrador with the broken pieces of your white picketed fence.

    We want to wage nuclear war on the nuclear family.
    why? because we are pinko freedom hating commienazi atheist bastards, its just what we do.
    ~psycho
  25. The Following User Says Thank You to Bostana For This Useful Post:


  26. #16
    Join Date Mar 2012
    Posts 341
    Rep Power 0

    Default

    But isn't fascism and fascist parties banned in Germany?
    Technically yes. Legally fascism still exists, thinly veiled as the CDU NPD. Everyone calls them what they are though, even the bourgies. It's an open secret.

    The fash aren't such a threat in Germany though, well maybe in the former GDR where the NPD has won some seats and propped up some "nationally liberated zones" (aka areas under fash control) but they're not a threat like in Russia or Greece really.

    This polarization of the center is all too familiar though. Smells like the 1920s.
  27. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Railyon For This Useful Post:


  28. #17
    Join Date Oct 2007
    Posts 11,673
    Organisation
    IWW
    Rep Power 276

    Default

    I've heard that the fascists in Greece are actually something of a joke, despite their sorta-kinda popularity.
    I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
    Collective Bruce Banner shit

    FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath

  29. #18
    Join Date Feb 2007
    Posts 484
    Rep Power 19

    Default

    The Swedendemocrats have gone back in the polls lately, they seem to be irrelevant for most people today and support the right wing block 94% of the times. But at the same time many of their voters are ordinary workers.

    So we socialists base our arguments on economic questions instead on liberal bullshit such as "all are created equal".
    The Swedendemocrats is a neoliberal party and is pro-capitalism, they are trying to split the swedish working class and if you vote on them you are betraying your own class. This is also the tactics against the pure nationalsocialists in Sweden and they both seem upset with this as they have become more and more seen as "protectors of capitalism".

    The nationalsocialist movement have from 2008 been beaten back in the streets by antifa and they split in different organisations but are now again trying to reemerge from the dark, they have not been very succesful yet.
  30. The Following User Says Thank You to aty For This Useful Post:


  31. #19
    Join Date Nov 2011
    Location Finland
    Posts 339
    Rep Power 13

    Default

    I've heard that the fascists in Greece are actually something of a joke, despite their sorta-kinda popularity.
    I know how you feel comrade, but when half a million people vote for fascists you have to start taking it seriously.
  32. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Krano For This Useful Post:


  33. #20
    Join Date Oct 2011
    Location California
    Posts 273
    Rep Power 11

    Default

    I didn't know about the Norwegian Progress Party until now.

    From Wikipedia:

    The party wants to ban the use of hijab in schools, and to deport parents of children wearing the hijab, citing the hijab to be oppressive to women and children.
    Yeesh.

    I didn't even know Norway had a far-right that was significant enough to get parliamentary seats.

Similar Threads

  1. KKE/PAME working together with the fascist Golden Dawn?
    By AntifaArnhem in forum Opposing Ideologies
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 23rd February 2012, 10:15
  2. The Greek fascist organization Golden Dawn
    By unfriendly in forum Learning
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 29th September 2011, 13:53
  3. Greek racism and Golden Dawn
    By Rodrigo in forum Learning
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 19th September 2011, 17:41
  4. rise in fascism in US and Europe related.
    By ellipsis in forum Action & Anti-Fascism
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 12th October 2009, 19:59
  5. Jean-Marie Le Pen - The rise of Fascism in Europe
    By Militant Brother in forum News & Ongoing Struggles
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 23rd April 2002, 16:17

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts