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But, but, how? Dont they collaborate with the nazis? Arent they best friends? Buddies?Amigos? Essays? Someone from the othe side of the Atlantic can explain please?![]()
people argying over a poster is news now?:
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
Right. In here if someone farts in an elevator with a nazi in it is news, exept when KKE fights in the street with them right?
The SPD had a militant military wing that fought brutal street conflicts with the SA, that doesn't detract from the fact they still ended up on the wrong side of history..
You seriously need to stop equaling our problems with the KKE leadership and its ideological/practical path with an attack on its rank and file members, of course these are mostly solidly revolutionary proletarian comrades that is exactly the problem as class make up of the membership says little about the party as a whole. Like said, plenty of leftist workers in the pre-war SPD, hell I'm sure you could even find plenty in the SA.
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
yo that poster is so small, the kke gave golden dawn much more publicity when they let them speak on that picket line
Until now, the left has only managed capital in various ways; the point, however, is to destroy it.
There is no distinction between the leadership and the base of that party. KKE members are really active in the politics descision making of the party and they support the leadership because they agree with it. I have no idea about the internal function of SPD, but I really doubt it was that organic.
And as far as the fascists go, PSD and KKE have two completly different analyses on the subject. SPD was talking about the "rise of the extremes", and presented itself as the secure way for society to avoid that, KKE is being attacked with the same argument(and its not by luck that the bourgeois politics use the name of Weimar Republic all the time when they talk about KKE and GD).
They must have it prescheduled so that they would promote GD!
That's sad, I had some good hopes for Greece its future, guess some social-democratic reformism would be the best to come out of it then, it will that or another pointless struggle between a new junta vs a state-capitalist dictatorship that will leave countless workers dead and capitalist exploitation solidly intact.
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
Poor us.
I hope social democracy would be the outcome too, because 2,5 years of PASOK was the best years of our lives.
only a throug and through confused leftist would descibe PASOK as social-democratic...
i meant to say that i hope that the KKE ballance falls in the direction of the dutch SP (ex-maoist), the several euro"communism"parties or the nepalese maoists... because no matter how bad that is it will still be better than the only other alternative the KKE seem to have as a potential for the greeks... it sure as hell doesnt have any communism in its future...
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
KKE and the Golden Dawn are two faces of the same coin.
Both parties filled with patriotic retoric, defense of the motherland and stuff...
not to forget the fact that the KKE placed himself, well actually is labour union "Pame", in front of the greek parliment to protect it against so called autonomous-anarchist and other leftist who don't agree with their stalinist line.
couldn't have put it better myself comrade!
Yes, let me also remind you that Golden Dawn is NOT a patriotic party but a shitty nazi nationalist one and if you think their places are the same with the KKE, you should think it again or consult a psychiatrist. As for the supposed parliamentary "protection" from P.A.ME I will not speak again for this, I have argued in a whole thread about this and I can tell you I have lost 5 hours of my life during this.
WORKERS OF THE WORLD,UNITE!
LONG LIVE THE CUBAN REVOLUTION!
I'll stay on topic. It's not uncommon for conservative, liberal, christian-democrat or social-democrat party members to remove nazi posters from Germany to Spain, so what? In fact, 'autonomous nationalists' have been known to remove propaganda by the traditional far right and sometimes even engage in physical confrontation with them.
What are you trying to prove with these topics? Are your panties in such a bunch after the GD incident at the steelworks? Are you so desperate to convince us the KKE isn't in bed with GD? If that doesn't speak for itself (to us or to you) that should be food for thought...
"Of Man's first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree..."
- John Milton -
"The place of the worst barbarism is that modern forest that makes use of us, this forest of chimneys and bayonets, machines and weapons, of strange inanimate beasts that feed on human flesh"
- Amadeo Bordiga
You are fucking up someone that GD is collaborating with KKE which is very slandering and after he proves this is not true, you are telling him why is he so upset with proving GD has no relation with KKE? WTF?
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No, we pointed out that the obvious presence of GD members and their rather warm welcome at the steel works, with the knowledge of KKE cadre, was unacceptable. We're not saying they're structurally working together, that'd be an absurd claim (at least, without proper evidence).
"Of Man's first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree..."
- John Milton -
"The place of the worst barbarism is that modern forest that makes use of us, this forest of chimneys and bayonets, machines and weapons, of strange inanimate beasts that feed on human flesh"
- Amadeo Bordiga
oh.. that guy again![]()
it is in this context. especially on a website where people hear about four nazis who live in different states meeting and start acting like there's a nazi threat.
golden dawn is obviously a patriotic party. how are they not patriotic?
The fact that KKE got into a fight with GD and this makes me think history repeats itself.
The GD is a far-right, nazi and/or fascist party, correct?
In the past, there was a strike in Berlin (or some Northern German city) which the KPD was organizing. Nazis showed up and joined them. Than both the KPD and the Nazis were fighting cops, allegedly the head of the police in the city was a member of the SPD.
Nevertheless, besides that one moment the KPD spent a lot of time fighting Nazis in the streets.
But to be honest, what's so note-worthy about a scuffle over posters?
Are the KKE going to go on a campaign to street-fight the GD now?
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