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Victory of Anti Communist Propaganda
We need to be realistic about the current situation.
The anti communist propaganda is victorious world over.
The communists influence a minority of the world population and are divided on the future course.
There is pessimism and lot of cadres stay only for short periods within the movement and then move on with their life.
HOW DO WE SUPPOSE TO CHANGE THIS TIDE?
The will to win is worthless if you do not have the will to prepare.
we play chess while biding our time.
"Give me a place to stand, and I will sit on your face."
- Trotsky in the opening speech to the third congress of the Fourth International.
We say Obama is communist, people see that communism isn't that bad (implying he doesn't fuck up too much), then we start revolution.
Genius.
Is this resistance or a costume party?
Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.
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What makes you think it's the anti-communist propaganda giving rise to this situation, rather than the communist propaganda? Most left-wing propaganda and rhetoric I've come across has done little but put me off, so how exactly do you expect the average (that is 'non-socialist') individual to react?
I don't know which 'cadres' you're referring to but I think you're wrong.We need to be realistic about the current situation.
The anti communist propaganda is victorious world over.
The communists influence a minority of the world population and are divided on the future course.
There is pessimism and lot of cadres stay only for short periods within the movement and then move on with their life.
HOW DO WE SUPPOSE TO CHANGE THIS TIDE?
Class antagonism between the proletariat and the capitalists is heating up worldwide. Here in the U.S. it is causing a resurgence of working class consciousness and a revival of left-wing, anti-capitalist sentiment.
So please, take your pessimism, put it in a sack and bury it in your back yard.
It is more of despair than working class consciousness. Most will want the current government to remedy the situation than a working class takeover.
The will to win is worthless if you do not have the will to prepare.
Socialist propaganda doesn't matter a lick. Crisis is an objective fact of capitalism. It happens whether there is 'propaganda' or not.
Where does this nonsense come from? This absurd notion that if only the people knew about socialism, real socialism, then they would accept it and there would be no capitalism.
That is absolute nonsense that has no basis in historical fact.
Capitalism breeds crisis, crisis breeds a revolutionary situation, and it is up to a small, disciplined, revolutionary group armed with a programme of global socialist revolution, to take political power. The masses will swallow the socialist programme whole, if they see that the leadership is willing to provide it.
This fact was positively proven in the 1917 revolution, and proven in the reverse, by the absolute failure of all other revolutionary situations, because they were missing the main component of a successful revolution, that is, a party of the Lenin-type.
The masses will only accept such a party if it is willing to take on the responsibility of political power. This is a job for revolutionaries.
Without the struggle for socialism, life has no meaning (J. Posadas)
He who has iron, has bread (L.A. Blanqui)
Possibly. But if history can teach anything it is that revolutionary classes often start out expecting reforms and end up making revolution.
For example, when the women of Petersburg set out, with banners, icons and pictures of Nicholas to demand relief for the high price of bread they did not expect their little 'iskra' to ignite a revolution.
Take that 'iskra' and light your pipe with it.
Well fuck that booty-chowder.
There is capitalist crisis all around.
So we are lacking the leadership !!
The will to win is worthless if you do not have the will to prepare.
Absolutely, as Trotsky famously put it "The present crisis in human culture is the crisis in the proletarian leadership."
Socialists should stop asking "where is the working class?" It exists, it lives, it struggles, it fights.
They should ask, "where is the revolutionary leadership?"
Without the struggle for socialism, life has no meaning (J. Posadas)
He who has iron, has bread (L.A. Blanqui)
The anti-left propaganda is not solely to blame for the curremt rep that the revolutionary left has.
All the schisms, splits and divisions have done nothing to further the cause, and should be equally blamed.
HAHAHAHA
And I thought your whole 'Blanquism' thing was just an unfunny joke.
[FONT=Verdana]Imperialist concentration camp torture chambers for Black Panther revolutionaries and other poor workers are what really props up desperate collapsing anti-communist culture, not just their lying propaganda. ‘Lefts’ would do well to concentrate their ‘criticism’ on this rather than making up spurious diversionary arguments about matters most of them are quite ignorant about. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17564805[/FONT]
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[FONT=Georgia]“I thought that my cause, then and now, was noble. They might bend me a little bit, they may cause me a lot of pain, they may even take my life, but they will never be able to break me.”[/FONT][FONT=Georgia]
[/FONT][FONT=Georgia]—Albert Woodfox, Still Innocent and in Solitary after 39 Years[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]http://www.angola3.org/[/FONT]
Communism is on the rise once again, not yet in the form of red banners and wide spread talk of revolution but just take a look at the world today: the occupy movement shows that class antagonisms are alive and well and that the workers are becomeing less and less content with their conditions. When was the last time mayday riots across the world ever captured the attention of major American media? I've never seen it in my life up until this year. How do you think the governments of the world deal with thease things bubbleing up here and there? They certainly don't try to meet the demands of the workers, they prefer takeing us closer and closer to fascism using more violence and giving us less freedom.
Things are changing I just don't know how this all of this change will end.
Comrade Samuel: The defender of truth, justice and the un-American way.
I suppose the changing times will come if we can organize and defeat the super-state apparatus of the imperialist powers - this would likely need an international movement
The will to win is worthless if you do not have the will to prepare.
This is an utterly mechanistic way of looking at things and has nothing to do
with a Marxian approach to revolution:
The time of surprise attacks, of revolutions carried through by small conscious minorities at the head of unconscious masses, is past. Where it is a question of a complete transformation of the social organization, the masses themselves must also be in it, must themselves already have grasped what is at stake, what they are going in for [with body and soul]. The history of the last fifty years has taught us that. But in order that the masses may understand what is to be done, long, persistent work is required, and it is just this work which we are now pursuing, and with a success which drives the enemy to despair.(Frederick Engels 1895 Introduction to Karl Marx’sThe Class Struggles in France 1848 to 1850
Spreading ideas - propaganda, in its true sense - is an absolutely vital part of the work of revolutinaries. Anybody who denies that really has not begun to comprehend what a socialist revolution is about. Of course propaganda on its own is not going to bring about a revolution and nobody, i think, has ever suggested that it would. But nor are crises on their own likely to produce a revolution either. On the contrary the Great Depression of the 1930s brought to power the Nazi party and the belief that strong government was needed to tackle the crisis.
The Bolshevik revolution was a complete failure form the standpoint of advancing the socialist cause and its outcome was the imposition of dictatorship over the prolertariat, the harsh suppression of the workers and the rolling out of a programme state-administered capitalism. It is a not a model of revolution that any socialist would recommend and part of the reason for its failure was precisely the conspicuous lack of a majority of workers who understood what a genuine socialist soicety was about and sought to bring it about
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More than anything it is the association with Stalin, Mao, Hoxha, Sung, and the like. People also think we know nothing about economics and follow intellectually bankrupt ideas about social science that aren't relevant to the real world. It's a specific sect that keeps on perpetuating these negative stereotypes.
I agree with this, a great deal of leftist propaganda and dialogue is incredibly dishonest. A refusal to admit past mistakes, and when finally pressed to the wall and forced to admit to a mistake the next phase is to do a lot of hand waving and attempts to justify the mistaken action through leaps of ideological faith.
There is nothing unique about this, just about all political movements do this, but you'll notice that they also lack mass movements.
Actually in each country the communist movement has had major set backs and the prominent leftist groups are actually made up of revisionists or pseudo-leftists. These groups do not inspire confidence among the people and their politics is not much different than bourgeois politics. It's too much talking and no practical work or results.
It's uphill task for the revolutionaries to fight both capitalists as well as the pseudo leftists.
The will to win is worthless if you do not have the will to prepare.
