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    Are there any good strategies for winning the better-off workers for the socialist cause? I'm thinking about middle class workers who have a relatively comfortable lifestyle, own their own home, can go on vacations etc.

    Often these "blue" workers support reactionary policies; they complain about the "lazy" unemployed, about immigrants etc. In their political mindset the bourgeoisie should not be put under more pressure because "it will destroy jobs".

    My girlfriend's family consists solely of these kind of people and we are both getting tired of listening to their reactionary crap.

    Are there any hope of turning these people towards socialism and will it ever be possible to have socialism when a large part of workers think like this?
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    Of course there is hope, but it will likely only be achieved with mass media. Honestly, it's a waste of time and energy to attempt to influence people who see Socialists as Liberals who are trying to take away all of their 'quality' lifestyles. Also, when attempting to influence, you'll have to duel with other Bourgeois influences, which is impossible.

    With mass media, people should be easily turned on to new Socialist ideas, causing them to read Marx, Lenin, etc. In my country, at least in some circles, we are starting to see the beginning of this.

    Edit: The United States.

    Also, how does anyone become Class Conscious? The answer to that question will be a key to the answer we're looking for.
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    I agree that if we controlled the media in the same way the bourgeois do - or if there were at least some plurality - the argument for socialism would be a lot easier to make.

    However I don't see how we can get access to mass media and get non-socialists to watch our TV stations read our papers etc. They all seem content with watching the bourgeois propaganda and mindless entertainment that the mass media offers them today. Real information would just seem boring or inconvenient to them.
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    With mass media, people should be easily turned on to new Socialist ideas, causing them to read Marx, Lenin, etc. In my country, at least in some circles, we are starting to see the beginning of this.
    What country is this?
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    I think, if they require an arguement that supports their current lifestyle then they aren't the kind of people who will ever be interested in socialist ideas. Appeals to your wallet and your vacation options don't make you support socialism, or any other leftist ideal. I know that under the current capitalist model, I could potentially earn more, own more etc but I want a fairer and more just society where there are no masters (paymasters, political masters) and capital doesn't hold the decisive vote on who lives and dies.
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    Often these "blue" workers support reactionary policies; they complain about the "lazy" unemployed, about immigrants etc. In their political mindset the bourgeoisie should not be put under more pressure because "it will destroy jobs".
    Hell, I even hear unemployed people spouting shit like this.
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    Often these "blue" workers support reactionary policies; they complain about the "lazy" unemployed
    My family is like this in a way, than again the whole Puerto Rican "middle class" (we don't even use this term much; in PR we use the term "working class" kinda widely/loosely and yet exclude the unemployed/welfare recipients yet include the petit-bourgeois. The media/political use of the term in the island is interesting, the rhetoric in the island usually puts this "working class" in opposition to both the rich and the people on welfare.) complains about the unemployed/welfare recipients.

    But they tend to support progressive views. Than again, the issue of US welfare in PR is complex because it's also seen as an instrument of imperialist domination from the US by certain people on the island.
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    Than again, the issue of US welfare in PR is complex because it's also seen as an instrument of imperialist domination from the US by certain people on the island.
    how many? do people in PR generally support independence?
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    Most of the younger generation of "blue workers" hold pretty progressive beliefs.

    They're the residents of most state schools. Students are either politically liberal or apathetic, mostly.
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