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    i've been reading up on this lately and without posting any literature on it, i'd like to hear everyone's first impulse opinion on it.

    however, i decided to post this picture of monkeys in a testing facility. i think it's absolutely the most tragic thing ever how each of the monkeys have found a friend to cling to. it's so full of desperation. they're all just hanging on for dear life for some other warm, live closeness and comfort. how can you say they don't have souls or emotions or feel pain? it's so obvious what they're doing here. they're scare shitless, worried, and they can feel it in the others and they are compassionate and aware of their mutual needs. and they do it the best way they can, through physical contact which is the essential initial element of every mammalian relationship. they're soothing eachother and asking for support in return.
    because a pig is a pig and that's that
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    (Sarcasm alert)

    No, no. Animals don't have souls. It's obvious that humans are the supreme beings in the universe. God said so. Global Warming and the concept of animals being worthy of any more being refined into hot dogs are simply myths perpetrated by terrorists and hippies.

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    All sarcasm aside. That's some pretty bad stuff.
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    Opposition&#33; Intense protest&#33;
    Vivisection is no- humanity. At least should this kind of movement of control in the lowest level. We already had very many advanced hypothesized technologies to be allowed to utilize to the teaching and the scientific research.
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    yeah man, rescue the monkeys, thats out of order. :angry:
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    I am thoroughly against animal testing in any way, shape or form.

    Save the monkeys&#33; (They are our grandparents after all... Or so Darwin suggested...)

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    uhh... what is vivesection?

    I&#39;m soo confused by this topic... especially that asian guy&#39;s response
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    Vivisection is when you dissect a living animal while it is conscious to preform scientific experiments. It is extremly inhumane and barbarous.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vivisection

    The act or practice of cutting into or otherwise injuring living animals, especially for the purpose of scientific research.
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    OMG&#33; How can anyone support that&#33;&#33; That photo gives me chills&#33;
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    I always thought that a vivisection was a way of birthing a baby when there are problems of some sort encountered. Like a cesarean Section.
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    That&#39;s what I thought, cani&#33;

    anyways, I am absolutely opposed to it. disgusting.
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    im totally for it....(joking&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33

    no of course not. im totally against it. i dont believe in doing any kind of harm to animals (any animals) or using them for any human interests (such as for food, clothing, entertainment).

    thats just a sad, sad picture. how can anyone go through with testing on such terrified beings?
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    Originally posted by SenoraChe@Dec 9 2003, 12:12 AM
    thats just a sad, sad picture. how can anyone go through with testing on such terrified beings?
    precisely. their reaction to the situation is so human that it&#39;s disgusting people can treat them as sub-beings. read my sig.....
    because a pig is a pig and that&#39;s that
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    Vivisection is a vile practice. I&#39;ve actually had the displeasure of being in a couple of animal labs during the course of my work, and I can tell you it was life changing. The sounds of these animals screaming is enough to make you sick. These labs are nothing but torture chambers. I very nearly lost my job at the time for refusing to enter any more of those facilities. The lab at one of the pharmaceutical companies I was at had vault like doors because they were so paranoid about animal rights groups breaking in and setting the animals free.

    The U&#036; military has been conducting disgusting animal wound testing for years. I had read a story years ago that the military had shot thousands of cats in the head with rifles to test the effect of a bullet wound to the head. I can&#39;t believe that anyone would need to kill anything to determine that getting shot in the head with a bullet is detrimental to your health. What was proven with this nonsense?

    Here&#39;s some descriptions of military animal experiments.

    Wound Labs: The Department of Defense has operated “wound labs” since 1957. At these sites, conscious or semiconscious animals are suspended from slings and shot with high-powered weapons to inflict battle-like injuries for military surgical practice. In 1983, in response to public pressure, Congress limited the use of dogs in these labs, but countless goats, pigs, and sheep are still being shot, and at least one laboratory continues to shoot cats. At the Army&#39;s Fort Sam Houston “Goat Lab,” goats are hung upside down and shot in their hind legs. After physicians practice excising the wounds, any goat who survives is killed.
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    Against it, of course.

    People will never realize the cruelty of such a practice, which is why releasing such photos are extremely important to the cause.
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    Vivisection is an outdated and barbaric practice.

    There many alernative methods of testing; Human volunteers, tests on cell cultures, to name a couple.

    Vivisection must be stopped.
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    There many alernative methods of testing; Human volunteers
    Or we could vivisect the entire republican party... just a though :P

    More seriously though, I find the practice disgusting.
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    I&#39;m just adding my thoughts on vivisection here, but i think it is completely wrong.

    Animals are not below us. They are equal to us. They are living creatures that may only live to eat and sleep, but they can feel, they can see, they can hear the abuse they and other animals somtimes go through.

    Harming animals to help ourselves shows a major flaw in the human race - greed. This greed i like that of the bourgoisie, except that the fact cats dont experiment on the workers.
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    "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals."
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    Now, I know he was saying this mainly to slight Muslims, but it holds truth, I think
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    disgustapated,

    they do come up with the most assinine excuses to abuse animals. injecting mustard into a cat&#39;s brain to see how it reacts. of course it&#39;s going to freak out. and if you lay kerosene soaked gauze on a beagle and light it on fire, what do you expect to happen? and this wasn&#39;t even to test cures, just to test the extent of damage.

    some girl who graduated from my governor&#39;s school a few years ago gave a presentation this week. she was explaining how they injected cancer into three puppies and then killed them and dissected the prostate.

    cures. bullshit. that&#39;s the excuse they always give. the truth is, many animals are not similar in composition to humans and the reactions given different substances are completely different. monkeys react very differently when administered penecillin. dogs and horses can&#39;t eat chocolate, yet humans can.
    because a pig is a pig and that&#39;s that
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    argh we have to do something, not just sit here and ***** and complain about what they do, if we dont do something than these things will continue to happen. I&#39;m trying to fight against animal cruelty through my music if possible.

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