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I am wondering what are some of the opinions on Michael Parenti since I do not see much mention of him.
Is he gonna shave or let it grow? Fence rider.
Brospierre-Albanian baseball was played with a frozen ball of shit and tree branch
"History knows no greater display of courage than that shown by the people of the Soviet Union."
Henry L. Stimson: U.S. Secretary of War
Take the word “fear” and the phrase “for what, it’s not going to change anything” out of your minds and take control of your future.
[I]Juan Jose Fernandez, Asturias
"I want to give a really bad party. I mean it. I want to give a party where there's a brawl and seductions and people going home with their feelings hurt and women passed out in the cabinet de toilette. You wait and see"
This is my favorite work by him. It is on the God of ignorant neo-liberalism, Vaclav Havel:
Sorry there is no link; I got it from another comrade on this website. It is good, though. I really do not know much about Michael Parenti other than the fact that he is a pretty good alternative to more reactionary and mainstream historians.
I imagine the Marxist-Leninists like him. He is an esteemed historian and ML.
So he's basically the Niall Ferguson of Stalinism? Gross.
Haha idk. I never read anything by him.
I haven't read much from him either, however this is well written:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/michael-pa...833/index.html
I read his Dirty Truths book a while back, it is a good starter book. It debunks myths like the "liberal media"..etc.
What I like about him: He doesn't always write for a left audience or obscure everything under Marxism.
I've read a few of his articles, but not enough to form an intelligent position on him and his work. My unintelligent position is that he should be used sceptically. Some of his stuff is interesting, but when he writes about something that I know a little bit about, I find errors and oversights.
The selection above about Vaclav Havel is from Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism. It's a pretty good book in terms of combating some anti-Communist arguments by the Left.
I actually just appealed to the book yesterday in an argument over at PoFo about the nature of the "failure" of East German industry.
Also, the band Choking Victim used excerpts from speeches of his throughout their album so you would think Marxism-Leninism would be more popular amongst punks at this point![]()
He's a bit of a doofus.
(I've only read his book on Caesar, but it was presented in a really stupid moralizing way, so...)
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Actually, this is a common misunderstanding. Parenti is a socialist, but really has never gone into detail after that. He likes Lenin, but doesn't like Stalin and doesn't care for Trotsky either.
I like Parenti, in fact I got one of his articles in my sig. and a quote from his book Blackshirts and Reds. I would reccomend that book to people as well. I don't agree with everything in it, but it is an engaging and thought provoking book.
"The exploited are not carriers of any positive project, be it even the classless society (which all too closely resembles the productive set up). Capital is their only community. They can only escape by destroying everything that makes them exploited...Capitalism has not created the conditions of its overcoming in communism-the famous bourgeoisie forging the arms of its own extinction-but of a world of horrors." -At Daggers Drawn
"Our strategy is therefore the following: to establish and maintain a series of centers of desertion, or poles of secession, of rallying points. For runaways. For those who leave. A series of places where we can escape from the influence of a civilization that is headed for the abyss." -Tiqqun, Call
Parenti is a progressive socialist academic with a long history of advocating for working people and students. He paid his dues with tenure denial and a beating by the cops when he was at the University of Illinois in the early 1970s.
His textbook Democracy for the Few is very useful and I hope it's widely read in colleges across the US. Parenti writes clearly and presents his ideas forcefully. He isn't saying anything new to the revolutionary left though, but his books provide good talking points when arguing with liberals.
doesn't he really like milosevic as well?
Until now, the left has only managed capital in various ways; the point, however, is to destroy it.
on "contrary notions" on page 190 in the article "left, right and extreme moderats" he says that trots, anarchists, anarcho-syndicates, libertarian socialists are anti-communists because they fight "stalinists". not to mention that on the same page he pretty much says that social-dems, progessives and "issue-oriented marxists" are the good ones who want to implement a social democratic goverment that would spend less on war and more on stuff the people need.
he is good writer but i find him quite naive.
All i want is a Marxist Hunk.
It is true that labor produces for the rich wonderful things – but for the worker it produces privation. It produces palaces – but for the worker, hovels. It produces beauty – but for the worker, deformity. It replaces labor by machines, but it throws one section of the workers back into barbarous types of labor and it turns the other section into a machine. It produces intelligence – but for the worker, stupidity, cretinism.
Wer hat uns verraten? Sozialdemokraten!
I don't know if he really likes Milosevic but he has expressed the opinion that Milosevic is a scapegoat and didn't deserve to be put on trial in the Hague.
I haven't read contrary notions but I know from other writings I have read of his he thinks that they are wrong for considering Stalinists more of a threat than capitalism. Some might be offended by that position, but I am not (and I am a left-communist).
"The exploited are not carriers of any positive project, be it even the classless society (which all too closely resembles the productive set up). Capital is their only community. They can only escape by destroying everything that makes them exploited...Capitalism has not created the conditions of its overcoming in communism-the famous bourgeoisie forging the arms of its own extinction-but of a world of horrors." -At Daggers Drawn
"Our strategy is therefore the following: to establish and maintain a series of centers of desertion, or poles of secession, of rallying points. For runaways. For those who leave. A series of places where we can escape from the influence of a civilization that is headed for the abyss." -Tiqqun, Call
left communist? wouldn't you then see stalinists as the left wing of capital
Until now, the left has only managed capital in various ways; the point, however, is to destroy it.
Here is a quote from Blackshirts and Reds.
"Those of us who refused to join in the Soviet bashing were branded by left anticommunists as "Soviet apologists" and "Stalinists," even if we disliked Stalin and his autocratic system of rule and believed there were things seriously wrong with existing Soviet society."
Page 45, last paragraph.
"The exploited are not carriers of any positive project, be it even the classless society (which all too closely resembles the productive set up). Capital is their only community. They can only escape by destroying everything that makes them exploited...Capitalism has not created the conditions of its overcoming in communism-the famous bourgeoisie forging the arms of its own extinction-but of a world of horrors." -At Daggers Drawn
"Our strategy is therefore the following: to establish and maintain a series of centers of desertion, or poles of secession, of rallying points. For runaways. For those who leave. A series of places where we can escape from the influence of a civilization that is headed for the abyss." -Tiqqun, Call
Parenti pointed something very interesting out: while ultra-leftists, particularly in the 20th century, checked under their beds every night for Stalin and basically every other socialist leader, capitalism was beginning to become less of a pressing issue. "Stalinism" was the new enemy and capitalism was starting to be ignored. This was, and still is, wrong on many levels.
that doesn't address what i say
you say you are a left communist but defend parenti's defence of stalinism by saying:
if you are a left communist wouldn't you see stalinism as a form of capitalism? so this stalinist/capitalist dichotomy you make makes very little sense from the tradition you claim to be part of
Until now, the left has only managed capital in various ways; the point, however, is to destroy it.