Anders Breivik declared sane

[ColonelCossack]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17663958

A second psychiatric evaluation of Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik has found him sane enough to face trial and a jail term.
The findings contradict a previous evaluation, published in November, that found him legally insane.
Breivik is due to stand trial on Monday over a bomb attack and shooting spree last July that killed 77 people.
Both reports will be considered by the court when it decides whether he should be sent to a psychiatric ward or jail.
The second evaluation was approved by a court in January following widespread criticism of last year's assessment that concluded he was psychotic at the time of the attacks and diagnosed him as a paranoid schizophrenic - meaning he would most likely be detained in psychiatric care.
Many of his surviving victims believed he was sane, and that the only proper punishment would be a prison sentence.
'Crusade' "Our conclusion is that he is not psychotic at the time of the actions of terrorism and he is not psychotic now," psychiatrist Terje Toerrissen, who carried out the second assessment with fellow psychiatrist Agnar Aspaas, told the Associated Press.
Breivik's victims

• Eight people killed and 209 injured by bomb in Oslo
• 69 people killed on Utoeya, of them 34 aged between 14 and 17 including Eva Kathinka Lutken (above)
• 33 injured on Utoeya
• Nearly 900 people affected by attacks

• How the attacks unfolded

The full report is confidential, and the two psychiatrists will give their reasons for arriving at a different conclusion to the first team of experts when they testify during Breivik's trial, AP reports.
The 33-year-old was charged with terror offences last month.
Prosecutors said at the time they were prepared to accept that he was criminally insane and would therefore seek compulsory psychiatric care, but they reserved the right to alter that view if new elements emerged about his mental health.
The latest assessment is likely to be welcomed by Breivik and his lawyers.
Breivik has always insisted he is mentally stable, admitting he carried out the attacks and saying they were an atrocious but necessary part of a "crusade" against multi-culturalism and Islam - but denying charges of terrorism.
In a recent letter to Norwegian tabloid Verdans Gang, he said being sent to a psychiatric ward would be a "fate worse than death".
"To send a political activist to an asylum is more sadistic and more evil than killing him!" he wrote.
News of the latest evaluation comes just six days before Breivik's 10-week trial is due to start.
If the court concludes that he was sane at the time of the killings then Breivik could face 21 years in prison with the potential for indefinite extensions to his term as long as he is considered a danger to the public.
Mostly teenagers The attacks on 22 July last year were the worst act of violence Norway has seen since World War II, and have had a profound impact on the country.
Breivik disguised himself as a police officer to plant a car bomb that exploded close to government offices in Oslo, killing eight people and wounding 209.
Still in uniform, he then drove to the island of Utoeya, where a summer youth camp of Norway's governing Labour Party was being held.
In a shooting spree that lasted more than an hour, he killed 67 people - mostly teenagers - and wounded 33, while a further two people died falling or drowning.
According to prosecutors, nearly 900 people were affected by the two attacks - 325 in Oslo and 564 on Utoeya.

Hopefully this will mean he'll have a worse time.

[Thirsty Crow]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17663958
Hopefully this will mean he'll have a worse time.

Actually, this potentially means that the most common way of depoliticization - insisting on the psychological illness - is shattered.

[Revolutionair]

Actually, this potentially means that the most common way of depoliticization - insisting on the psychological illness - is shattered.

Yes. Which could potentially be helpful to us. If only society asks the 'why'-question so we can start pushing nationalist propaganda back.

[Althusser]

ehh... in Norway they'll probably just give him a slice of cake and send him on his merry way.

[seventeethdecember2016]

Let's replace Breivik with a Workers' Revolutionary. Said Revolutionary has killed 70+ people for being what he described as Bourgeois. Is that factitious gentlemen insane?

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

ehh... in Norway they'll probably just give him a slice of cake and send him on his merry way.

Blargh blargh hurrhurr why aren't norwegian prisons so inhumane as our proud american ones hurrr, bread and water and rat-stuffed bunk beds for everyone

One of the main reasons they sought to declare him insane is that they could that way keep him locked up permanently, whereas a prison sentence is limited (and now they are looking to allow longer sentencing just to accommodate this).

[MotherCossack]

it is beyond me!
why would anyone do that?
i remember at the time a feeling of overwhelming respect for the lawyer assigned to defend him......
he came across as a man of intense principal whose strongly held beliefs in the principal of justice were central to his ability to defend the indefensible.

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

ehh... in Norway they'll probably just give him a slice of cake and send him on his merry way.

Yeah, that is sort of what I was thinking. He should be sent to an American jail, or even better; an Iranian jail.

I do not think compassion is an option in this case (I really never think it is, anyways).

[Ostrinski]

ITT: conservative weirdos

[MotherCossack]

american prisons are, if nothing else, proof that the american response to crime has been unhelpful... and the policies employed to deal with it, a monumental failure.

lock em up and treat em mean..scare any other bums from doing the same.....
well, clearly doesnt work does it.

[MotherCossack]

not that i am advocating anything remotely pleasant for this particular murdering bastard.....
it is tricky.... but i suspect that there is yet to be a punishment severe enough to fit this crime.
maybe he should be tried at the hague... for crimes against humanity.

[Althusser]

I wasn't being serious. That's the problem with text on the internet... it's cold and you get no tone of voice. Those prisons are very successful. That being said, the longest Norwegian sentence is 21 years and hotel ro - I mean, prison cells look like this

[Revolutionair]

Let's replace Breivik with a Workers' Revolutionary. Said Revolutionary has killed 70+ people for being what he described as Bourgeois. Is that factitious gentlemen insane?

Well if this workers' revolutionary decided to gun down bourgeois kids on an island with no chance of them escaping, definitely yes.

[Rafiq]

He isn't insane, and this should be a disturbing yet curious fact that the Left must come into terms with. This is the reality of racism in Europe.

[Thirsty Crow]

Let's replace Breivik with a Workers' Revolutionary. Said Revolutionary has killed 70+ people for being what he described as Bourgeois. Is that factitious gentlemen insane?

That's a completely meaningless exercise.
Clinical insanity cannot be determined by lofty speculation solely based on one act (as is the case with Breivik; one can commit horrid acts without being insane, and in fact, to believe that one must be insane to do such things is an ideological way of justifying certain kinds of behaviour).

[Left Leanings]

Irrespective of whether Brevik is sane or not, there is no doubt that he will be taken out of circulation for a hell of a long time. And rightly so. The most worrying issue here, is the ongoing growth and development of the neo-nazi elements of the far-right, and the nature and character of some of its supporters.

As it continues to grow, will there be more like him. In Britain a few years back, we had the bad bomber who blew up a bar frequented by LGBT people.

[Yefim Zverev]

SO ANDREAS BREIVIK CAN WRITE ON REVLEFT ? GOOD I GOT COUPLE OF STUFF TO SAY THAT Vous avez le corps d'un chien et le QI d'une durée de cinq ans Vous êtes une pomme de terre avec le visage d'un cochon d'inde

[Game Girl]

I wasn't being serious. That's the problem with text on the internet... it's cold and you get no tone of voice. Those prisons are very successful. That being said, the longest Norwegian sentence is 21 years and hotel ro - I mean, prison cells look like this

Thats a prison cell?! It looks like a bloody apartment bedroom! I'd wanna sleep in that!

[Rafiq]

A norwiegan cell won't be successful for a self rightious worm like Brevik.

[Yefim Zverev]

A norwiegan cell won't be successful for a self rightious worm like Brevik.

He must taste russian cells or mexican drug mafia cells or some middle eastern... to wake him up and convert him to a proper socialist hehe