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CPGB-ML: A Reactionary Pary?
The CPGB-ML proudly claims to be anti-revisionist, which by their definition means an extreme and irrational form of anti-imperialism. Not only do they not appear to support any actual Marxist-Leninist government they go so far as to support the religious fundamentalist elements of the Iraqi and Palestinian resistance, Mugabe (a man who has expressed sympathy for Hitler), Saddam's Iraq, the state capitalism of China and the Juche state in North Korea which has rejected Marxism-Leninism entirely. Are they anti-revisionists or just anti-imperialist reactionaries?
Wait, you think anti-imperialism is reactionary?
"Machinery in itself is a victory of man over the forces of nature, but in the hands of capital it makes man the slave of those forces" - Uncle Karl
no I think anti-imperialist religious fanatics and fascists are
He's talking about blindly supporting the notion of ''anti-imperialism'' which is used by many groups as an excuse to retain their rule or to build support. Revisionists in the CPGB-ML lobby to defend the Kim's of Korea and truly believe that The DPRK regime is attempting to build Socialism in Korea. Groups such as FARC, The PIRA (along with other Irish republican groups), Gaddafi before the Libyan ''revolution'' claim to be anti-imperialist to retain their rule or build support, it's simple. Blind anti-imperialists support reactionary and revisionist governments and groups, the current state of Iran is a good example, reactionary religious tendencies such as the one's mentioned by the OP are evident in Iran, along with Cuba and the DPRK.
[FONT="Arial Black"]Our lives are rivers, gliding free
To that unfathomed, boundless sea,
The silent grave!
Thither all earthly pomp and boast
Roll, to be swallowed up and lost
In one dark wave. - Jorge Manrique[/FONT]
Aren't they the dingbats who parade around London on VE day with a giant picture of Stalin?
The one and only.....
[FONT="Arial Black"]Our lives are rivers, gliding free
To that unfathomed, boundless sea,
The silent grave!
Thither all earthly pomp and boast
Roll, to be swallowed up and lost
In one dark wave. - Jorge Manrique[/FONT]
The CPGB-ML are a bunch of party buearacrats and intelligenstia who are basically a front for the Korean Worker's Party and Communist Party of China. Their idea of class struggle is to constantly kiss North Korea and China's ass and doing activism for the most bankrupt "anti-imperialism".
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It doesn't exactly seem that you're interested in having an honest discussion here. Much of the language you have used here is quite loaded with assumptions and already contains jabs at the organization you're trying to discuss.
It also seems you have developed an opinion on these things which makes me think your OP is rhetorical.
I'm not trying to defend or oppose the CPGB here, just pointing out that this method of "asking questions" is what leads to tendency flame wars on this site.
They are a caricature of marxism- leninism (and this is coming from a non-m-l) and I like them, for they have tremendous entertainment value.
"Give me a place to stand, and I will sit on your face."
- Trotsky in the opening speech to the third congress of the Fourth International.
That is actually the one thing they should be proud of. I would do the same thing. There is nothing wrong with parading around with the portrait of the hero who destroyed the fascist imperialists and helped the partisans of Eastern Europe establish dictatorships of the proletariat in their respective nations. Whether you agree with Stalin's politics or not, you cannot deny the fact that he is a war hero.
They support North Korea and the Communist Party of China. They're a bunch of loons that are helping to discredit Communism by worshipping mass murderers.
Lunatics.
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Carrying around several million portraits sounds impractical to me, indeed.
He chewed up Nazi's with his teeth. He pushed over German tanks with his own two fists.
Obviously, the millions of soldiers who fought and died for the Allies are the true heroes, but Stalin is also a war hero because he led the most successful front and the front that was for true liberation.
I would say that Stalin is one of the most important war heroes of WWII.
Why?
It seems like needless glorification of an individual and a form of pseudo-religious hero worship. This is exactly the kind of worship of the individual that Marx was against.
The notion that Stalin is some kind of "war hero" is also quite laughable. I guess I must have missed the story where he killed 15 Nazis with his mustache. After receiving news of the invasion, Stalin cowered under his desk for some time like a frightened child while the task of organizing defensive measures and rallying the nation fell to others. This doesn't sound like the action of a hero to me.
This kind of historical distortion is on par for Stalinists I'm afraid.
what is with those tabards?
Stalin imposed idiotic policies on the military (executing 'retreaters'), he was a terrible military commander. Saying Stalin liberated the East from nazism is tantamount to arguing that entrepreneurs keep the economy running, in reality it is the soldiers and workers that do the actual job.
I just came along a group on revleft that supports Mugabe for his anti-imperialism despite him being an imperialist himself with 43 members (!).
Many anti-imperialists seem to have no clue what imperialism is and think imperialism is exclusively Western.
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They're a classic example of what happens when you divorce yourself from a materialist method. They'll fly the banner for any state that waves red flags or puts up a front to the US. They could claim to be all sorts of things but that still doesn't make them anti-revisionist or anti-imperialist when they're still supporting north korea and china.
You all need to shut up. The Stalin Society is legit as fuck.
The basic ideas of Marxism, upon which alone a revolutionary party can be constructed, are continuous in their application and have been for a hundred years. The ideas of Marxism, which create revolutionary parties, are stronger than the parties they create, and never fail to survive their downfall. They never fail to find representatives in the old organizations to lead the work of reconstruction. These are the continuators of the tradition, the defenders of the orthodox doctrine. The task of the uncorrupted revolutionists, obliged by circumstances to start the work of organizational reconstruction, has never been to proclaim a new revelation – there has been no lack of such Messiahs, and they have all been lost in the shuffle – but to reinstate the old program and bring it up to date.
- James P. Cannon, 'The Degeneration of the Communist Party'
