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Communist and Anarchist groups in Manchester (Uk)?
Do you exist? If you do, could you give me a succinct lowdown of what a typical meeting is like, how many people attend, how active the group/party is, age range, etc, etc. Thanks.
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Edit - By communist, I mean orthodox marxists/left communists/trotskyists. I don't care about marxist-leninist groups.
The two main left communist organizations that is the International Communist Current and the International Communist Tendency both have members in Manchester. Also the Anarchist Federation has a pretty good section as far as I'm aware of. I'd recommend you check all three out.
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Think the iwca has a group there
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^ Are there any Manchester communists/anarchists, that are in those groups, active on this forum?
I'll pm them and ask my questions. Don't worry, I'm not a cop
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Two UK anarchist groups with politics that are actually pretty good are Anarchist Federation and SolFed.
The latter (Solidarity Federation) is the UK branch of the IWA, if I'm not mistaken.
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I know Solfed is active in Yorkshire, don't know about in Mancs/Cheshire sort of way.
Don't expect big numbers (might be different if you're in inner cities in Manchester, if some comrades could shed light) like you have in big national/london protests.
socialist party of great britain are in Manchester. As it's one of the largest cities in the country I would expect most parties to be there.
Solfed have a local listed on their website but I think the Manchester Afed is bigger.
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I'd probably prefer afed as i'm not really into syndicalism. Don't know if they have a local anywhere near me up north, though. (North Yorkshire)
Which leads me to another question: Is there any leftist cooperation between the groups, informal or formal? I can imagine how in London each group is defending their own perk as most, if not all, HQ's are in London. But I wonder how this is in other places?
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I'm from London and from a party which does not campaign on reformist issues so I'd really be the wrong person to ask. But from my small experience of going to meetings within certain neutral organizations set up around the protests last year and the year before I can say that there was a plethora of ideologies and parties and anarchist organizations represented there. But inter-party politics amongst Trotskyists and Marxist Leninists is not a subject I have a great deal of knowledge on. So if official joint initiatives do happen I'm sure someone from one of those parties will give you a better answer.
We're generally received with much hostility from other parties wherever we go for instance there was this posted here a while ago which turned out to be an ICC front. Two of our members went and were pretty much heckled constantly from what I heard and then accused by the ICC of "constant interventions" on their website something which is very hard to believe of the comrades who went and completely contrary to their accounts.
They have not updated their blog since that meeting
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it more depends on who is active locally, in most places outside of london it's one or the other. I think people tend to join based on who is there rather than specific ideological beliefs. for what it's worth neither really operate on a ground level in complete adherence to their stated 'theories'.
I'm bound to stay
Where you sleep all day
Where they hung the jerk
That invented work
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.
Socialist Party will definitely have a branch
I know, but i've done that before (slightly out of naivety and wanting to be active, though I don't think there's a problem with that) and out of ignorance fell into a group that was dominated by SWPers, which I didn't really enjoy in the end although granted, the activism work was pretty good and we had a decent rally or two.
I'm at the stage where i'd rather not join any organisation at all, than join one that is at odds with my beliefs. So many organisations in this country are just ridiculous little sects, it's not like they can turn round and have a go at me for being selective really.
yeah I see what you are saying. I think though if someone already knows about afed and solfed then they aren't just picking who is the loudest or the biggest group around, in that respect working with one cos they are active local and the other one isn't I don't think is too bad a thing. I mean they're both still sects but at least they're a bit better than the others.
I'm bound to stay
Where you sleep all day
Where they hung the jerk
That invented work
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.
whereabouts in north yorkshire? depending on yr location you might be able to join af leeds, who i think have other members from the surrounding yorkshire area.
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oh yeah, and while i have my criticisms of the way the af is organised even from my very limited experience of it, i like the fact that it's something of a "broad church", drawing on marxist currents like council communism and autonomism as much as traditional anarchist thought.
Until now, the left has only managed capital in various ways; the point, however, is to destroy it.
The SPGB has a branch in Manchester with about 30 members including people from outside greater Manchester.
We meet twice a month and normally have a ‘propaganda’ meeting or a talk with questions and discussion etc once a month.
There is a Manchester Solfed which has some activity now and again.
