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    they simply see what is better for the society.They simply see that exploiting ,let's say. 100 people for the interest of one person is wrong as a concept itself,which it makes them explore the worker's class' condition.

    Well,you can look at them as Idealist,but i don't see any negative thing in being idealist,which i am.And i consider myself communist.
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    We need more rich communists, those are the people who'll fund the movement.
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    We need more rich communists, those are the people who'll fund the movement.
    Corporate sponsorship for the communist movement?
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    Corporate sponsorship for the communist movement?


    I mean, if someone makes a large personal fortune, then retires early. They could use extra money they had to fund projects and organizations.
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    Nope. A man gets rich by one of two ways. Inheritance or exploiting labor. Inheritance is not an ideal of Communism and would cease to exist. He must have invested in stocks of companies, administrative at a company, or owner of a company. All of the above rely on wage labor to make profits. For instance, NKE shares are high, and the reason it is profitable is because the individuals who make the shoes, thus, making stock owners not Communists because they capitalize on wage labor. If you are in an administrative position your job only exists because of laborers, and for you to receive compensation you must exploit them with wage labor. Which denies you the right to be a Communist.
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    We need more rich communists, those are the people who'll fund the movement.
    I agree. Time to rob some banks, kidnap some bourgeois, send fascists to for-profit prisons, expropriate what rightfully belongs to the working class.
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    Just because someone enjoys their alienation under capitalism doesn't make them less alienated
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    I agree. Time to rob some banks, kidnap some bourgeois, send fascists to for-profit prisons, expropriate what rightfully belongs to the working class.


    I mean, if someone makes a large personal fortune, then retires early. They could use extra money they had to fund projects and organizations.
    Nope. A man gets rich by one of two ways. Inheritance or exploiting labor. Inheritance is not an ideal of Communism and would cease to exist.you must exploit them with wage labor. Which denies you the right to be a Communist.

    this is so cute..... hey lets have a...'.how to get lolly for the great cause ' party

    so it seems that wealthy folk cant be class traitors because they cant be communists because communism does not allow the accumulation of wealth....and since most rich folk aquire wealth by either cheating, stealing or lying....they have no right to come to our party!!!!
    unless they give it all to us i suppose.... that would work....

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    all i know is i am what i am....... at the bottom socially.... and it is not fair for me or my family.

    i suspect that it is about things being fair.... or not ...and about priorities and having a bit of honour....

    i tell you if i was that jk rowling.... of harry potter fame... and they opened an attraction to see the making of the films in watford somewhere....
    there is no way that i would let them charge nearly £30 for each ticket.... ever.... i would never forget... however rich i got!

    you money grabbing sellout over-rated author of harry potter
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    this is so cute..... hey lets have a...'.how to get lolly for the great cause ' party

    so it seems that wealthy folk cant be class traitors because they cant be communists because communism does not allow the accumulation of wealth....and since most rich folk aquire wealth by either cheating, stealing or lying....they have no right to come to our party!!!!
    unless they give it all to us i suppose.... that would work....

    repent....donate.....associate

    all i know is i am what i am....... at the bottom socially.... and it is not fair for me or my family.

    i suspect that it is about things being fair.... or not ...and about priorities and having a bit of honour....

    i tell you if i was that jk rowling.... of harry potter fame... and they opened an attraction to see the making of the films in watford somewhere....
    there is no way that i would let them charge nearly £30 for each ticket.... ever.... i would never forget... however rich i got!

    you money grabbing sellout over-rated author of harry potter
    You can accumulate wealth by the fruits of your labor alone. Most people who've acquired opulence has done it in an un-pure way. Which doesn't make you a Communist, rather a Capitalist.
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    You can accumulate wealth by the fruits of your labor alone. Most people who've acquired opulence has done it in an un-pure way. Which doesn't make you a Communist, rather a Capitalist.
    Might I suggest the thought that communism is not a lifestyle.
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    Might I suggest the thought that communism is not a lifestyle.
    Indeed, but if I exploit your labor and claim to be a Communist I'm either obtuse to the ideology or a phony.
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    You can accumulate wealth by the fruits of your labor alone. Most people who've acquired opulence has done it in an un-pure way. Which doesn't make you a Communist, rather a Capitalist.
    isnt that what i said?
    it certainly is what i meant to say.
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    Why can someone only be a communist if it's in their class interests? Does it really benefit workers to be communists? I see no problem with approaching communism from a moral perspective.
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    Why can someone only be a communist if it's in their class interests? Does it really benefit workers to be communists? I see no problem with approaching communism from a moral perspective.
    well. to be honest the blokes that came up with the idea, in the first place, were a tinsy bit middle class.... well as far as i can tell and anyhow...
    the left is not exactly overflowing with the milk of political support.... we could probably do with all the help we can get...
    if it is genuine, sincere and unqualified, that is.
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    Indeed, but if I exploit your labor and claim to be a Communist I'm either obtuse to the ideology or a phony.
    Someone get Engels on the phone and tell him that he is either not a communist or does not understand what communism is.
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    Might I suggest the thought that communism is not a lifestyle.
    Might I suggest that a communist revolution is one which changes all social relations into communist relations, making the transformation of your own day to day life of the utmost importance?
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    We need more rich communists, those are the people who'll fund the movement.
    Who says we'll need legitimate funding? I wouldn't ask them for shit.
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