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Well, the situation in the US isn't rioting in the streets due to austerity measures and other shit for the past few years.
I mean, the working class is pissed, and rightly so. They are much more class conscious than that of the American proletariat.
The political culture of Greece is so much different than that of the US though. I think a movement of this type in Greece presents a threat.
You gotta remember that in Greece there are groups like CCofF and various other armed leftist urban guerilla cells, I don't see why there wouldn't be armed groups on the right as well.
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
Indeed the situation in Greece is uniquely different, and the presence of fascist militias in such a situation characterize a real danger. What i am saying though is the mere presence of a militia doesnt mean anything in and of itself.
FKA Vacant
"snook up behind him and took his koran, he said sumthin about burnin the koran. i was like DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN and ran off." - Jacob Isom, Amarillo Resident.
I'm betting that if Leftist organized into armed groups they'd immediately be called "terrorists" and all the media would start to prey on them. While right wing militias are deemed as "patriotic do-gooders".
I think the leftists need their own militias. Armed to the fucking teeth.
The US is also about 1,000 times larger than Greece.
We always need'em, but oftentimes we can't get'em.
I agree, and I also advocate strong discipline in organisation of militia. Cannot afford to have people not trained, discipline will help in combat. It's not their to make you look like a fool.
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please dont let this become another stella militia organizing thread.
FKA Vacant
"snook up behind him and took his koran, he said sumthin about burnin the koran. i was like DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN and ran off." - Jacob Isom, Amarillo Resident.
how big and influential are these "militias"? cuz' i imagine the kke dwarves them probably by about two orders of magnitude
Formerly dada
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For now they dont present a real threat. They are a couple of dozen people that are organised in it. But its the potential it has that is a threat. Tommorow these groups might become bigger. And the simple fact that the police gave the green light to a convicted for attempting murder neonazi to "secure the streets" says a lot by itself.
And btw, the point is not to physicly attack them, but to politicaly isolate them. Confronting them should be the last resort. They might be thugs and goons, but we should not act as gangs because they do so. Our answer has to be political.
We need to overthrow the bourgeois State.
The worst possible scenario is that of inter-war Germany, with each party having its own militia, and the left pretending that class war was street brawling with fascists, while the latter clearly aimed at State power.
Luís Henrique
People I signed up on this site because I wanted to reply to this topic. I am a greek citizen currently living in Athens. I was a communist with SEK Socialist Labour Party and have also been in riots and protest marches alongside KKE. But I came to the verdict that KKE is not on the citizens best interests, mostly I based my decision on certain decisions from the side of KKE, like siding with right-wing parties against our teachers strike. But to make the long story short what I'm trying to say is that communist parties have dissapointed me many times and after being assaulted by robbers twice in a week by people who were willing to stab me for 2 euros(I don't blame them they must have been desperate which is quite understundable in my country) but the point is that I joined the Greek Patriotic Townwatch mostly out of curiosity. I was there for about 4 months and I can say that they weren't fascists at all, of course I did not aggree on many ideas they had. I've met personaly with the TownWatch leader many times and although was not a communist, he always made a clear point that politics are outside the scope of the TownWatch and will always be. They have nothing to do with Golden Dawn and I personally despise neo-nazis. Members are mostly citizens women in mid 40s and older men and not former soldiers. There is to much propaganda and fear because of ignorance on that matter. But anyway I apologise for my large post I hope you read itand sorry for my English it's not my native language
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Also I'd like to respond to some comments that the TownWatch will not join foreign forces. They opose the goverment and demand new measures to be taken so that crime rates drop, unemployment drops, and middlemen dissapear from the economy. They are even against most capitalists. And ask that all polititians be trialed in court and also leave from NATO and EU if it is not in our countries interest. So no there can be no support from such forces.
The real danger is Golden Dawn here the TownWatch never attacked anyone and also they didn't even have real weapons, I mean the goal of the TownWatch is to train citizens to maintain order if a civil war occurs or police forces and military are not capable of maintaining order or if the army takes over command of our country. But Golden Dawn is the real threat because it was voted as the 3rd party in our last elections and attacks immigrants and Greeks aswell. The police tolerate TownWatch because they are a legal organisation and do not remind thugs at all.
So why hasn't the communist party done the same thing yet
FKA Red Godfather
It's scary the kind of stuff that's going on over there.
Also, apparently these scumbags can go around assaulting people, but when ever we speak out against it were labelled as just being overly "PC" (Politically correct), and are apparently trying to take away their "freedom".
A question for the American members that are urging the formation of workers militias: If you are under the age of 25 when are you enlisting in the Army?
the army is made up of armed workers, but it is not for workers.
i see what you did though. 4/10
oh, and im not answering on behalf of those urging to organize worker (read: leftist-activist) militias.
FKA Vacant
"snook up behind him and took his koran, he said sumthin about burnin the koran. i was like DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN and ran off." - Jacob Isom, Amarillo Resident.
Partija Rada (Party of Labour)