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just one in 10 men do more housework than their partner
I'm bound to stay
Where you sleep all day
Where they hung the jerk
That invented work
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Sounds like my PSY101 teacher,"feminism accomplished nothing" etc, etc... I never understood why progressive women like herself rejected feminism (despite embracing it in youth).
Not really surprising as it takes a long time for real change to be seen. Equality is a gradually process and thousands of years of oppression isn't likely to be lifted in a few decades.
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I read about this in the guardian. I think that the traditional role of women cleaning and caring for children is very much programmed into people from a young age. The toys that emulate the drudgery of housekeeping are very much marketed at girls (I've been noticing things like this a lot more now that I have a 2 year old son to buy toys for), and also a lot of people grow up in an environment where they see women doing the household chores and childcare all or most of the time. Women need to insist that their partners do an equal share of the housework and children need to be brought up in an environment where everyone does their bit in the house and encourages them to challenge the unequal distribution of domestic labour.
Unfortunately it seems to me that the role models children and young people have (for example, most caring workers are female) and the way that products marketed at children are so ridiculously gendered will make it very difficult to make much progress with this.
Another issue I suppose is that many women don't challenge their partner's lack of help with the housework and some people aspire to be housewives and mothers.
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unequal distribution of domestic labor is only going to change when distribution of paid labor changes. because as long as paid labor favors males in ability to get employment, it's going to just be a lot more convenient and easier overall for households to have women stay home while men work. and most couples have to have at least one person home if they have a child, unless they can afford a nanny.
Yeah, this is true. In the UK if you're very poor you can get some childcare costs covered, but for a lot of people, unless you're working in a very well paid job, it isn't enough. Having a preschool child in nursery for a day costs £50 per day, roughly.
There are a lot of women in lower paid jobs, and I think that the financial practicalities of having a job and raising a child, housework and child-rearing being seen as women's work and the expectation that women will give up having a serious career when they become mothers are big barriers to changing that.
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the last paragraph doesn't make sense to me. what are you saying?
I am not sure that this is really an accurate explanation for the unequal distribution of domestic labor. I am not sure about the figures elsewhere, but incidentally, the American workforce is now majority female. Frankly, I dont know any women who are stay at home mothers. How many working class men make enough money to support a family as the sole earner? I imagine, to the extent that stay at home mothers even exist at all nowadays, they are almost exclusively from the upper classes.
Sorry, I meant that I don't see the distribution of paid labour changing very quickly because:the last paragraph doesn't make sense to me. what are you saying?
1. It is expensive to send a child to nursery while you go to work (about £50 per day where I live). Even if you can claim some costs towards that (if you're on a very low income you can claim up to 85% of the costs) it's still not necessarily going to be "worth it" to work.
2. Housekeeping and child-rearing are seen as women's work, so if one partner has to work less to do these things, it's more likely to be the woman. The social norm is that, when it comes to having children, women are the ones that give up work for a while and stay home with the children, which means it's more difficult for women to get into jobs that pay higher wages.
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If the woman is at home and the man is working, which is the majority of households, then obviously the woman would be doing more housework.
I stand corrected, then.
The majority of households??
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Arent you a guy...?
You forgot capitalism..
That I did, there just seem to be so many things to "fuck" nowadays that sometimes things slip my mind. Oh well...
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Well, I guess then I was raised in on of those households where man do more housework than women. I've never considered it weird... my father cooks better than my mother and when he is stressed he likes to clean. I do the same.
Also, I believe that only in US women can stay home. Here, and that same goes for the rest of Europe, women work... or better to say both partners work, because you can not maintain hosehold with one salary. And regarding US I think that this whole women not working thing is only TV show thing.... (of course when I write work here I mean on having a job; just saying this so that male feminists to pick my eyes, like usually, with "housework is work" shit... yeah I know, get a life).
Get the bloody children working. Kick arse. Personally I would rather live in abject squalor than spend a minute doing housework. Only constant nagging or repeated blows from a broom have ever shifted me from that position. My step mother left me an iron in her will. That woman knew me better than I knew myself. She along with an army of wives sweethearts never gave up. I salute every last dam one of them. Particularly her....her last dying wish......one last act of futility. How the hell do you think I got this name D O D G E R
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