Antifa use of violence

[NoPasaran1936]

Lets see.
Uses violence to silence political opposition.
Justifies it with logic games as in (link removed due to <25 posts.
Seeks to deny the rights of others.
Wants to terrorize people.


Violence and oppression will not solve this issue. If Violence and oppression solved anything then there would be one dominate cartel in Mexico, one Yakuza in japan, ect, ect.

All the acts of violence do is turn the public against you and harden those you seek to oppress. If they fight with words, use words. The more of these antifa stories I read, the more I am convinced that they are thugs.


"one is not an antifascist to have good press"
Bad press hurts whatever cause you are fight for, you must know this?

Is there a non-thug version of these antifa groups? one that seeks to do things in a sound and logical manner?

You just don't get it do you?

'Sound and logical' - Fascists are anti-rational. Good luck with your liberal approach.

'Bad press' bourgeois owned press who'd attack any form of leftist alternative, get real.

[Anarchist Skinhead]

mikumiku- I rest my case...

[Anarchist Skinhead]

join the Green Party or something mate, they do things in nice and reasonable way

[NoPasaran1936]

join the Green Party or something mate, they do things in nice and reasonable way

He wants logic, I don't think the Green Party is very logical, especially what they're doing down here in lovely ol' Brighton.

[Anarchist Skinhead]

well, he also wants us to change fascists ideology so I thought he will fit in quite well mate

[NoPasaran1936]

well, he also wants us to change fascists ideology so I thought he will fit in quite well mate

I wonder if he got them to smile more, he'd be more complacent with fascists?

[Bandito]

Unfortunately, from my experience, violence is the only language they understand and the only thing that keeps them in their mouse holes.

Look, fascism is a kind of ideology that feeds with fear and grows with violence. The only thing that keeps it from spreading is using violence and fear as a counter-weapon, and, trust me, a Nazi who gets his ass kicked a couple of times changes his views drastically.

There isn't any tactic that has been proven so meaningful as use of violence did, and I'm telling that from years of experience in fighting them in the street. There were times when we weren't that active in that particular department, which resulted in growth of their numbers. When we start kicking them, their numbers decrease. Simple math really.

P.S.

And pacifists that post on a revolutionary forum - you're just contradicting yourselves.

[NoPasaran1936]

Violence is a reaction, regardless of what ever it is. The august 2011 London riots, they were a reaction to severe austerity and the attack on their conditions which has pushed many London youth on the verge. Fascism thrives in economic downturn, they use the anger that has built up, and it's a show of force to threaten ethnic minority communities. They're not looking for intellectual and rational debate, as fascism is anti-intellectual/rational, their voice is through violence and hope it attracts white youth.

To counter that reaction, you must show your opposition through force and show that ethnic minorities and the so called 'indigenous' are united, recognise the reason why the fascists turn up in towns with high populations of ethnic minorities and are there to stand united and protect one another. You cannot shout from the sides with hope that they'll just go "you know what, they're right" and join your side. If they do, well, were they really fascist, or just confused? The hardcore fascists will seek to use violence through any means necessary to impose their view.

It is down to the working class to unite and fight back.

[ВАЛТЕР]

In my opinion they aren't violent enough. They are too often on the defensive.

To quote one of my old boxing coaches: "Defense keeps you in the fight, offense wins it."


How to deal with fascists:

Soviet officer executes Nazi collaborators.