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If I were lucky enough to oversee a socialist nation, I would protect everyone's free speech, except when that free speech would be used to incite terrorist/counterrevolutionary acts against the state, the people, or the socialist economy or when it would be used to encourage a return to capitalism. Racism and sexism will be restricted in public speech (except when used in appropriate comedic situations), and obviously any speech praising fascism or capitalist oppression would warrant censorship. Pornography . . . I really cannot think of any logical censorship. Censorship for pornography that encourages violence will naturally be handled, considering the people's state will own all national distribution methods.
What about amateur porn produced at home, how would you censor that?
So...less free than now in the U.S.? We can currently post on this site, it's not blocked in any way. We can watch our porno's and our horror movies alike. We can do all of these things. If the people are not free (and they would not be free if what they say aloud is policed) then we have failed in communism. You're simply trading masters.
I love how you are the second person who does not see the blatant and obvious contradiction between your introduction and the rest of your story.
"Oh no, I support free speech, except for X, Y, Z, Q". You want to increase censorship in comparison to what you are allowed to say now, and yet you say you support free speech? "Nope, I'm fine with free speech, except for those who disagree".
yes, specifically your posts
I think when the person said "rape porn" they meant footage of real people being raped and posted for pornographic purposes
Let people say and express themselves as they wish so long as they aren't bringing harm to others.
The more you try to repress something the more the person will want it. Let people be free to think and express themselves as they wish so long as it doesn't cause harm to others.
As for nazis and the likes, I would stick them in labor camps because fuck them.
If we are to extend democracy the furthest it can go and remove the state, then how the fuck can censorship even take place? Who's going to enforce it? People will just have to learn to be people. Don't like watching gore films? Then don't watch them. How can anyone take a counter revolutionary seriously when you're living in socialism? It would be like King Cnut commanding the tide not to come in.
In the narrow sense of the OP's question some things ought to be censored after the revolution, i.e. child pornography. More broadly, I am a Luxemburgian and believe that freedom has to include freedom for those with whom we disagree to express their opinions lest the revolution fall victim to dictatorship. The line ought to be drawn to forbid counter-revolutionary organizations, not to proscribe individual thoughts or opinions. Otherwise, we might end upon in a society where "thought crime" is punished.
OK, I never said I would suppress violence in media, normal pornography, or all free speech, but I think that women deserve the simple respect of not having men all over the nation seeing extremely violent pornography and learning from it (and I am a man!). I know that most men can tell the difference between porn and real life, but come on, some things just go too far and impede on the revolutionary leftist battle against the sexual objectification of women. Also, free speech is a right that will never be taken away from honest people who do not advocate violence against socialism. Yet, the remants of the former classes will work tirelessly organizing terrorist acts against the socialist state and people. Have you guys ever heard of the terrorist acts committed against Cuba by groups like the Alpha 66, which are not even based in the Cuban homeland? Terrorists need to be oppressed, and so do their rhetoric.
And pardon me, I forgot to tell you guys that I would not agree with a state that prosecutes people for every little controversial thing they say. Absolutely not. Also, I would not agree with a state controlling comedic speech.
I dont think so. As long as it is completely voluntary or artificially made (with animation etc) there is nothing wrong with any kind of porn.
Who are you to say what an adult man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman can and cannot do on camera? I just searched for male on male rape porno, and guess what, it exists. So what if two adults (or more) enjoy the fantasy of being raped?
male fake rapes male = okay
female fake rapes male = okay
male fake rapes female = banned
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Also, banning "terrorist rhetoric" is a slippery slope. And pretty pointless also. If socialism is good, the majority will recognise it because it improves their lives, no amount of rhetoric can change that. If a bunch of rhetoric can persuade people who are already living in socialism that it's a bad thing, then socialism failed and lost its legitimacy.
Terrorists do not need to be part of the mainstream that agrees with socialism, they are, almost as a rule, outside the majority. That is why terrorism is called terrorism, not revolution. Just look at the Republic of Cuba, where most people agree with the socialist system, except, of course, the terrorists and the former oppressing classes that left the island because they knew the tables were about to turn and the guns were going to be pointed at them for once.
only a bravo or a fool would OP this subject. Here goes anyway.....we have self-censorship, here in the real world. Any editor worth his salt knows(nose) what is expected of him/her. What sort of press do we want...well it will be the press we deserve. Whatever the social organization. We could ask people what they want, you might get a nasty shock, depending how honest they were. I could say the last thing I want or need is to be well informed with up to date truthful reporting, over my porridge. I never bought a paper, always picked them up in the carriage, quality, financial, tits and bums, sport...the journalists I have known all said one thing . People buy the paper that confirms the opinion they already hold dear. How depressing is that?!?
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I am fully opposed to censorship. Especially in a workers' state... How can a state controlled by the masses hide something from the masses unless the political power/state power is not in their hands.
To quote the great revolutionary, Rosa Luxemburg:~ The Russian Revolution, Chapter 6 "The Problem of Dictatorship".
No to censorship. Yes to fighting against counter revolutionary organizations. Let people say and think what they want. If they perpetrate actual crimes against individuals or the revolution, bring them to justice.
It seems to me that in a healthy workers' state, censorship would be democratic and self-regulating. What's this, some ex-bourgeious fascist trying to print pamphlets advocating a return to capitalism? The workers refuse to print it. Simple as that. And if they do decide to print it and support it, find out what material conditions are making them behave this way and correct them.
If harsh situations were to occur, some state-regulated censorship may be inevitable, but only with democratic input from the proletariat would I be comfortable with it.
I find it pretty unbelievable that revolutionary leftists support any forms of censorship, including hate speech. These laws are almost always used against us. Assaults on democracy hurt those who need it the most.
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