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    This is an interview with the director of The Trotsky I did for the Left Film Review

    http://leftfilmreview.net/2012/01/27...f-the-trotsky/

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    Oh to hell with youtube (malfunctioning speakers).
    Have you got a transcription or something?
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    Thanks for that. I wanna see The Trotsky now. I've heard of it before, but never really looked into the movie until after watching your interview. Hopefully the local video stores have it.
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    Stupid film. I downloaded and deleted it pretty quickly.
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    Stupid film. I downloaded and deleted it pretty quickly.
    I don't think anyone could argue the contrary, but it's satisfying in a politically carnal fashion.

    6/10 --Average. It's a perfectly average film. No brilliant acting, yet not so terrible as to distract the viewer. Typical, manufactured script. Typical, manufactured obstacles.

    Had it not been for the political twist, nothing would have separated this film from anyone of the dozens upon dozens of profit-driven bogus Hollywood degradations of art.

    In fact I had submitted a review of the film on IMDB a couple months ago.
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    I found that if you take it as a little comedy for 20 something college kids who think it's cool to hear the name Trotsky in a movie, then...well....Nevermind it does suck. Can we do a thread on the ideological undertones of Zoolander or Ghostbusters even.
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    I don't think anyone could argue the contrary, but it's satisfying in a politically carnal fashion.

    6/10 --Average. It's a perfectly average film. No brilliant acting, yet not so terrible as to distract the viewer. Typical, manufactured script. Typical, manufactured obstacles.

    Had it not been for the political twist, nothing would have separated this film from anyone of the dozens upon dozens of profit-driven bogus Hollywood degradations of art.

    In fact I had submitted a review of the film on IMDB a couple months ago.
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    Anyone can submit a review to IMDB, mine wasn't really very significant ...just a couple paragraphs. The one titled "A light watch for the socially incline"

    imdb(.)com/title/tt1295072/reviews
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    It wasn't that bad. I at least sat through the whole thing and even chuckled at times.
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    I think shitty highschool comedies are something of a 'guilty' pleasure of mine. I went through a phase of watching loads of South Korean highschool films. There's some weird shit being regurgitated by film industries around the world. The Trotsky is far better than some of the crap I've seen.
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    I think shitty highschool comedies are something of a 'guilty' pleasure of mine. I went through a phase of watching loads of South Korean highschool films. There's some weird shit being regurgitated by film industries around the world. The Trotsky is far better than some of the crap I've seen.
    I know what you mean. I'm a complete sucker for stuff like that.
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    I found that if you take it as a little comedy for 20 something college kids who think it's cool to hear the name Trotsky in a movie, then...well....Nevermind it does suck. Can we do a thread on the ideological undertones of Zoolander or Ghostbusters even.
    Are you one of those "movies are just movies" people? (Which is quite a silly position for anti-capitalists/materialists to have)
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    Are you one of those "movies are just movies" people? (Which is quite a silly position for anti-capitalists/materialists to have)
    Zizek talks about a person being able to have 'two minds' when watching cinema that allows them to experience the desired responses of the creator as well as the ability to devise alternative meaning. I also ascribe to the concept of 'death of the author' where we can enjoy film for reasons other than those intended by the producer. I think people who think that watching Third Cinema or obscure political documentaries making them better socialists are often more 'silly' than someone with a 'movies are just movies' mindset.

    When we, as a socialist and objective audience, watch a film like The Trotsky we can identify problematic discourses within the film such as the sympathetic representation of the police, the naive allegory of revolution being equated to the formation of a students' union and the shite constructed relationship between the protagonist and his love interest (to name but a few). However by understanding this nature of the film, we can also understand how the producers of the film wanted to create a simple high-school comedy that attempts to deal with some serious issues. The terribly put together relationship becomes funny because of its ridiculous construction and not in spite of it.

    Socialism isn't a lifestyle choice where you can simply boycott Hollywood to prove your hatred of capitalism. The idea is to seize control of the means of production and cinema is as much an industry as car manufacturing. It is our job as socialists to educate the consumers of film, the working class, about the problematic nature of capitalist film, the contradictions within and the subtle bourgeoise propaganda, lest we become dictators of culture by telling them that enjoying one thing is 'wrong' while enjoying another thing is 'revolutionary'.
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    I found that if you take it as a little comedy for 20 something college kids who think it's cool to hear the name Trotsky in a movie, then...well....Nevermind it does suck. Can we do a thread on the ideological undertones of Zoolander or Ghostbusters even.
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    Zizek talks about a person being able to have 'two minds' when watching cinema that allows them to experience the desired responses of the creator as well as the ability to devise alternative meaning. I also ascribe to the concept of 'death of the author' where we can enjoy film for reasons other than those intended by the producer. I think people who think that watching Third Cinema or obscure political documentaries making them better socialists are often more 'silly' than someone with a 'movies are just movies' mindset.
    I wasn't aware that people thought that watching obscure or political documentaries made them "better socialists" and I certainly hope that wasn't directed at me.

    When we, as a socialist and objective audience, watch a film like The Trotsky we can identify problematic discourses within the film such as the sympathetic representation of the police, the naive allegory of revolution being equated to the formation of a students' union and the shite constructed relationship between the protagonist and his love interest (to name but a few). However by understanding this nature of the film, we can also understand how the producers of the film wanted to create a simple high-school comedy that attempts to deal with some serious issues. The terribly put together relationship becomes funny because of its ridiculous construction and not in spite of it.

    Socialism isn't a lifestyle choice where you can simply boycott Hollywood to prove your hatred of capitalism. The idea is to seize control of the means of production and cinema is as much an industry as car manufacturing. It is our job as socialists to educate the consumers of film, the working class, about the problematic nature of capitalist film, the contradictions within and the subtle bourgeoise propaganda, lest we become dictators of culture by telling them that enjoying one thing is 'wrong' while enjoying another thing is 'revolutionary'.
    Indeed, I completely agree with this and don't see how it is different from what I've said in the past.
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    It was fun. As a 30something Trotskyist I found it very amusing. It's light and fun.

    The comments on Kubrick are interesting.

    I wasn't aware that people thought that watching obscure or political documentaries made them "better socialists" and I certainly hope that wasn't directed at me.
    Don't sweat it. Good interview!
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    I wasn't aware that people thought that watching obscure or political documentaries made them "better socialists" and I certainly hope that wasn't directed at me.
    I've met many people who've watched a Godard film and think that gives them the nuanced film knowledge to criticise mainstream film without actually having any understanding of Godard let alone mainstream cinema. I was channeling my annoyance at them and I wasn't intentionally directing anything at you. However, if it came across that way, I'm sorry.

    Indeed, I completely agree with this and don't see how it is different from what I've said in the past.
    I believe that it's not 'silly' to watch a film and enjoy it without having to apply marxist theory, or any other kind of film theory, in order to find every problematic point. Your post implied otherwise.
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    I've met many people who've watched a Godard film and think that gives them the nuanced film knowledge to criticise mainstream film without actually having any understanding of Godard let alone mainstream cinema. I was channeling my annoyance at them and I wasn't intentionally directing anything at you. However, if it came across that way, I'm sorry.
    Agreed, but this kind of pretentiousness is unavoidable at many levels of theory and culture

    I believe that it's not 'silly' to watch a film and enjoy it without having to apply marxist theory, or any other kind of film theory, in order to find every problematic point. Your post implied otherwise.
    Perhaps it did seem as if I was implying this but I didn't mean for it to. While I of course agree that sometimes you just want to enjoy a film for what it is: I would imagine we could agree that those films are part of the broader culture we live in, part of an industry, etc. I believe you already pointed this out of course so I doubt we disagree on this point.

    Cultural criticism does serve an important function in society, but so does sitting back and enjoying a good film for what it is.
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    2.48. Director talks about how Trotsky played a vital part in the revolution and was later erased from history.

    Interviewer changes subject!

    Classic.

    20 minutes later, still no discussion of Trotsky. No more discussion of the film.

    Apparently it is a good film, but this interview only discusses it for about 30 seconds.
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    2.48. Director talks about how Trotsky played a vital part in the revolution and was later erased from history.

    Interviewer changes subject!

    Classic.

    20 minutes later, still no discussion of Trotsky. No more discussion of the film.

    Apparently it is a good film, but this interview only discusses it for about 30 seconds.
    Yes I know how all things must revolve around Trotsky for you, but this was an interview about film and politics more broadly. Also, as per how interviews go, the Director was done with that subject and clearly ready for a new question.

    I know you would only be satisfied if the entire thing were devoted to Leon Trotsky himself, but there are other things in the world.
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