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    Astrophysicist strikes blow to lightning theory
    Model suggests electric fields cannot grow large enough to generate bolts.
    17 November 2003
    BETSY MASON


    The conventional view of how lightning is produced is wrong, according to a Florida-based physicist.

    Electrical fields in the atmosphere simply cannot grow large enough to trigger lightning, calculates Joseph Dwyer of the Florida Institute of Technology in Melbourne1. "This means back to the drawing board," he says.

    Dwyer mainly studies high-energy particles in space. But two years ago, after moving to central Florida, one of the most lightning-prone areas of the world, he became intrigued by reports of huge gamma-ray and X-ray bursts associated with lightning. Such high-energy radiation tends to be seen only in outer space, as moving through Earth's atmosphere slows it down.

    Most scientists believe lightning is generated when a giant electric field builds up in the atmosphere. Although no one has actually seen such a field, researchers assumed that this was simply because they hadn't looked hard enough.

    When Dwyer factored the production of high-energy radiation into a model describing the build-up of electrical fields in thunderstorms, he got a shock. He found that the release of gamma-rays and X-rays diffuses the electric field, preventing it from becoming large enough to spark lightning.

    http://www.nature.com/nsu/031110/031110-19.html
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    interesting. I guess this changes quite a bit in the scientific body of knowledge if this thought if the theory is right. I guess you can't technically disprove ball lightning now, can you? Maybe it is true, but this is neither here nore there

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    So that explains that breif period where I turned into the Incredible Hulk after being hit by lightning.

    I finally have some closure.
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    I thought we explained your hulk bouts with the fact that Lou Ferrigno was your illegitimate father.

    oh well.


    This is a very important topic and I think EVERYBODY should comment on it. This totally changes how a lot of things are done if it is correct.
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    Um, how does this "totally changes how a lot of things are done if it is correct"?
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    It means that we might have to re-examine other geographical phenomena, then I might have a fighting chance to also prove my theory that the moon is, indeed, made of cheese. Wensleydale, to be precise.
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    Stilton or Norweigan Yarlsburg, but not Wensleydale
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