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I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
Any good reads on this subject?
At around 1:00 she acts as if taking pride in your childrens achievements is the same as racial pride. There is a fundemental difference: the behaviour of your children is largely an extension of how you raised them. If your children are polite towards people, then you can attribute that to the labor you have invested in teaching them good manners. Racial pride on the other hand, is largely based on fear for people with a different skin color. Acting like both prides have the same premise is dishonest.
I didn't watch the whole video yet (and I probably won't), but this is how you should think about other people's claims. Think about what they are based on. If you are not sure about what a person bases his/her claim on, just ask that person. It is his/her responsibility to give arguments for his/her position.
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At 2:15, she lists good and bad qualities for nations, but doesn't explain why those things are good or bad. Diversity undermines national cohesion, so what? What's so good about national-cohesion? I think national-cohesion is actually something that we should be cautious of. I don't know who said it, but it expresses my feelings: "a society that is unable to critique itself is a dangerous society".
She is actively tricking people into believing her opinions are fact, by listing her opinions as facts or absolute values, which is dishonest.
edit2 hopefully last one:
AT 3:26 she is not investigating ANY causes of these numbers. I could point at Norway and say: hey that is a pretty social-democratic nation. Norway also has a flag with red in it. According to her that would be a "stunning correlation". A very plausible explanation of her statistics could be, oh I don't know, the fact that there is a fucking huge income disparity in the US? The Eastern Block has extremely high crime rates nowadays (no offense), yet there is not as much multiculturalism as in the West, where crime rates are relatively lower.
Conclusions:
1. She is dishonest on purpose.
2. It is a youtube video.
3. She doesn't know jack shit about what she is talking about.
Out of the above 3 points it follows that she, and her video, should be ignored.
Last edited by Revolutionair; 4th December 2011 at 03:16.
I wish I could suggest one.
But to refute some of the dumb things she's said:
"Diversity doesn't happen without force"
That one is absolute horseshit. Diversity has been a thing since people had legs and walked to a new place. I mean, shit, Europe is and was diverse as fuck, with all sorts of different people -- celts, germanic tribes, Romans, Moors, vikings, etc. etc. etc.
And you could go even farther back than that, honestly.
And then there's the thing she said about being proud of being "white". I think she's right that people can feel pride in just about anything that they feel gives them a sense of value. That's why I think it's a-okay for people to walk about being proud of being Irish, German, Italian, Russian, etc. etc. etc. BUT that is not the same thing as being proud of being White.
That's because Whiteness is completely a social construct to put one group of people over another. Ethnicity on the other hand is something with a little more substance -- "culture" and shit like that. Still kinda dumb, I think, but it's not the same as being proud of being "white". There is no such thing as "white culture". "White people" do not have a shared heritage, language, culture, or religion. "Whiteness" is just a position of relative privilege (or something -- I don't know if that's the best way to put it)
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
A very important point to figure out whether an educational video is honest is not is: is the maker of this video trying to DISPROVE his/her own thesis? If you are doing research based on science, you should always add disclaimers about why your thesis might not be true.
For instance if I was a medieval scientist: I think that there is a force that pulls everything towards the ground. I think this means that there is a pulling force underneath the ground, but I could be wrong if mass attracts other mass.
Idiotic example but it illustrates my point. That line in bold is an important indicator of something scientific: making your point falsifiable and trying to falsify it yourself.
In her video you could see she was mystifying her own points on purpose. She is trying to make the discussion more unclear instead of more clear!
The recent genocide in Rwandan was precipitated by a collapse in the country's principal export: coffee. The underlying reason people's differences (race, religion, etc) become antagonistic is economic inadequacy not diversity.
It's always funny when people like her try to pose themselves as marginalised light-bringers because their views aren't "popular" or "mainstream", conveniently forgetting that they were entirely popular and mainstream for a good two hundred years, and that everybody else dropped them because they were scientifically spurious and morally repugnant.
She looks like J. Edgar Hoover in drag except less hot.
I looked further into her videos; she is an outright fascist. Nevermind.
I'm tired of your pseudo socialist dogma..She said while ignoring criticisms of all the studies and books she mentioned.
I think this deserves a gold star.
Not surprising she was using your typical White Nationalist buzzwords and their typical martyrdom defense. OMG you hate me because I love my race! Yeah that must be it lady.
+ YouTube Video
She was 'far left' before..
She calls herself a "race realist.." Someone found stormfront.
Last time I checked the discussion was on her moronic viewpoints, not on what she looks like. Still, I found her facial expressions hilarious, it looked like she was genuinely scared of all those horrible diverse people coming into her country.
Anyway I got up to about 2:30 before I got bored, her video has already been disliked so many times and the flaws in her arguments were so obvious that I don't know why you'd bother, it's YouTube for god's sake.
'i would punch u in the jawside so hard it would lean more left than the ICC' - bailey_187 to AK
"Now the states in the business of casually arresting successful protest groups at the end of fully automatics we really are going to have to be very clever about how we go about things if the far left movement grows. ("First they came for the half witted tossers")"
- Comrade Joe on the arrest of EDL members
This isn't chitchat. Cheap shot one-liners don't get us anywhere. Please consider yourself verbally warned.
百花齐放
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la luz
de un Rojo Amanecer
anuncia ya
la vida que vendrá.
-Quilapayun
What's wrong with that? Their prices are very reasonable!
As much as I disagree with racist dipshits, I have to disagree with your claim also. Look up intentional homicide rate on Wikipedia - the ex-Eastern Bloc countries have a low murder rate, with the exception of Russia. God damn it, we have problems, but we are not Mad Max.
Don't give them ideas.What's wrong with that? Their prices are very reasonable!
Don't give who ideas? That's an actual store.Don't give them ideas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtJU38yRJYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLOtBilB8Bo
There's allot of folks like this. It's part of a debate between ancaps that's been going on for months, it started out being about if there's intelligence correlates to race, the egalitarians won that one, then it broadened into "do races exist?" the hereditarians won that one, then affirmative action, then aid to the third world, "is racism natural?" and all sorts.
+ YouTube Video
enjoy
Last edited by Stork; 4th December 2011 at 20:42.
