"Rape-rape"

[synthesis]

Is this phrase ban-worthy if used 'properly'? If not, should it be? Why or why not?

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For example, if someone said that Julian Assange's alleged actions weren't "rape-rape," should they face administrative consequences?

[Stork]

If anything is rape-rape then what Polanski did was rape-rape. The trouble is most people associate the word "rape" with someone jumping out of the bushes in the park and forcing himself on a young lady at knife-point, which obviously barely ever happens. non-consensual sex is a big no-no, obviously when extreme physical force is used it's much worse, on the other hand if the victim voluntarily got him/herself intoxicated beforehand, and little to no real force was used then it's not nearly as severe. It's still rape though.

[Smyg]

I am so, so bothered by the tendency to disregard non-assault rape.

[kashkin]

I think its disgusting that Polanski's rape allegations are excused by so many people. Just because he is a good director (or so they say, I haven't seen any of his movies)doesn't excuse him of rape.

[Sputnik_1]

i'm not trying to excuse anyone, just want to hear from you what do you know on the topic. I've seen a few interviews and as long as i know the girl had had sex before and was not on drugs. Also was consentient (and she was interviewed as an adult person already). Is that true (or at least, according to you) ?

[kashkin]

The girl at the time was thirteen (I think) and IIRC the age of consent in America is not lower than 16 in any state.

[Sputnik_1]

well yeah, that doesn't stop girls from having sex earlier. I know that he shouldn't have done it and I'm not trying to excuse him and I'm even holding back myself from saying "that's kinda moralistic" cause would probably get responses like "you support pedophilia" and such (which i definitely don't). I know that 13 years old is definitely too young, but i don't understand how magically from one day to another on your 16th birthday you all of a sudden become "ready".

[tir1944]

What's the difference between rape and rape-rape,for those outside the US?

[Stork]

well yeah, that doesn't stop girls from having sex earlier. I know that he shouldn't have done it and I'm not trying to excuse him and I'm even holding back myself from saying "that's kinda moralistic" cause would probably get responses like "you support pedophilia" and such (which i definitely don't). I know that 13 years old is definitely too young, but i don't understand how magically from one day to another on your 16th birthday you all of a sudden become "ready".

exactly, some people mature faster then others so putting a date in a calender is stupid.

[kashkin]

That's true, just suddenly turning 16 doesn't mean one is automatically ready for sex. Also, it is possible the girl was mature enough at the time to have a sexual relationship, but I'm not sure. In my experience, most thirteen year olds aren't mature enough to deal with sex.

Also, it seems that drugs were involved, but I don't really know. I'm getting this off wiki and its sources.

[Misanthrope]

I'm not analyzing a "The View" video...

[Tim Cornelis]

What's the difference between rape and rape-rape,for those outside the US?

It isn't an American thing, it's phonetic. When she says that "it wasn't rape-rape" she means "it wasn't actual rape" as in physical sexual assault.

[sulla]

The girl said no I don't want too. What sort of disgusting animal forces himself on a 13 year old girl? He fucked her up the ass too!

This is far worse than someone seducing a underage girl, he basicly forced himself on her.

[israeli-hellscape]

'rape-rape' is a horrible phrase. i also hate when people claim it is 'so hard to tell when consent has been given'. um, what? if someone isn't showing the body language that consent has been given, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG! consensual sex is generally full of "oh yeah"s and ecstatic faces so, uh...

[Ele'ill]

'rape-rape' is a horrible phrase. i also hate when people claim it is 'so hard to tell when consent has been given'. um, what? if someone isn't showing the body language that consent has been given, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG! consensual sex is generally full of "oh yeah"s and ecstatic faces so, uh...

And by, you know, talking to the person and asking if they're alright with everything that's happening.

[Die Rote Fahne]

"rape rape" is a bullshit rape apologist term. Should be 100% bannable/infractable.

[Ele'ill]

synthesis, does the phrase seem appropriate to you having been a leftist since at least 2002- I'm not understanding why you made this thread aside from the absolute absurdity displayed in the video.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Rape is rape. I personally believe that all rapists should be publicly shot not by the state but by good samaritans.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Rape is rape. I personally believe that all rapists should be publicly shot not by the state but by good samaritans.

That's the initial emotional response, but the rational is what needs consideration.

The idea is for deterrence punishment and rehabilitation. Not an easy way out. Are you a religious person? If not, why would you think putting them down like that would solve the problem of rape? Or do anything but let them escape punishment and rehab?

[xub3rn00dlex]

That's the initial emotional response, but the rational is what needs consideration.

The idea is for deterrence punishment and rehabilitation. Not an easy way out. Are you a religious person? If not, why would you think putting them down like that would solve the problem of rape? Or do anything but let them escape punishment and rehab?

Exactly. The resolution of what causes rape can lead to proper deterance. Why is it some fe/males can get turned on, lustful, yet contain their emotions and not force themselves onto other, but some people can't? Rape is not-justifiable in anyway, but until we know what exactly causes it i don' think we can line people up in front of a firig squad. If it's a chemical imbalance, if it's emotional damage, these things can be rehabilitated with time and further advancements in tehnology. But if rape turns out to occur 'just because' then how do we deal with that? Do we shoot them? Can we rehabilitate 'just because?' ( i doubt it )