The EDL is getting rather noisy these days, eh? Guess they are finally tired of being ignored as a non-threat. I trust the English unions have protection groups ready for counter-demonstrators?
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EDL splinter groups may target unions
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/no...-target-unions
Well, they already have in recent months. They've taken up a wave of violent attacks recently, and attacking Occupy LSX during Armstice day (classy day to do it, especially if you're a patriot).
I sure as hell hope all the UK users will be out on those picket lines.
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The EDL is getting rather noisy these days, eh? Guess they are finally tired of being ignored as a non-threat. I trust the English unions have protection groups ready for counter-demonstrators?
So the EDL is serious now? They must of gained alot of members after the riots.
They claim to be able to mobilise 12,000 members, but the largest rally they ever had, when they were a real force in the early 2000s or so, was about 2,000 people. So I believe they are just trying to appear to be a big thing in order to hopefully gain more members, but I still doubt they will make much of anything.
They're splintering, but it doesn't mean that threats should be laughed off.
"If you're havin girl troubles I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems and a ***** aint one." - Mother Theresa of Calcutta
This much is true, but I think they were in recent years averaging around 500 people at rallies, so they still do not mount much of a threat....unless whoever they are plotting to attack isn't ready to defend themselves. But the EDL has a thing about announcing who and when they are going to attack before they do it, so it should give anyone time to plan accordingly for possible violence.
Does this mean that the right-wing rags will finally lay off about them being the embodiment of the "white working class"? Or will they just come to conclusion, in that rigorously logical fashion that we know so well, that the working class hates trade unions as well as foreigners?
In another, kinder reality, the former. Shame we live in this one.
Do you think the whole, pre-arranged, "we're coming to kick fuck out of you at X time and at X location," is symptomatic of the football hooligan element within the group? Every certinous Stone Island attired fucknut that I've ever met has indicated that that's the general protocol for meeting up with other firms for a rammy.
"If you're havin girl troubles I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems and a ***** aint one." - Mother Theresa of Calcutta
I always think there's something vaguely reminiscent of tribal warfare to it. Like they all really wish they were saying "The host of Olaf Gutgrinder will face the host of Ragnar Bloodaxe at the Hill of Skulls on the Night of Carnage!", and they're just doing the best they can with what they've got. A bit like Dungeons & Dragons for people with less patience, really.
That's why I never get the sort of folk that say violent video games/films/anything are unhealthy. I could play some Skyrim....or I could go out and kick some bam's teeth in because he's wearing the wrong coloured top. I know which is the more healthy release of aggression.
Anywho, I suppose we should be thankful they are kind/stupid enough to let us know they're coming. In the unlikely event they get banned, they'll start with the more unpleasant shit (fire bombings, etc.) I'd imagine.
"If you're havin girl troubles I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems and a ***** aint one." - Mother Theresa of Calcutta
[Note from Blackscare]
Apparently I can't delete/trash posts outright right now so I'll have to do this instead. Let me be perfectly clear: while I am personally not going to denounce any action against fascist/pseudo-fascist elements, this sort of specific, actionable discussion constitutes a security risk during a period of broad civil-unrest and (undoubtedly) heightened surveillance of this site, the largest predominantly english-speaking leftist forum on the internet (afaik). If you can't see the stupidity of being this blatant and specific in your discussions of violence, you need your head examined. The discussion of revolutionary violence in the abstract is of course absolutely fine, however.
Warning to aty.
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Wow. Stabbing these fuckwits will not solve the problem. Their racist views will just get deeper. Well have them rioting in Asian communities-I for one don't want to see that! There is still the anti-fascist groups who always like to square up to these tits-besides, let's just hope England qualify for the next world cup and they all go to Brazil to watch it. I doubt the Brazilian's will take a softly softly approach!!
I noticed the other day, that the EDL has a Jewish section. Found this odd!!
I know the welsh section is made up of Cardiff and Swansea football hooligans/ fans but who makes up the Jewish contingent? (if anybody)
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the edl and infidels are scabs:
'The EDL and other associated grupuscules are scab organisations doing the self-defeating work of the ruling classes for them: they attacked the Occupy Newcastle site which is protesting against corporate greed and the unaccountability of capitalist organisations; they threatened to attack students who were protesting against education cuts and view all students as ‘middle clarse’ which is naïve beyond belief; and they opposed the massive march against cuts which was protesting against the decline in living standards, government austerity and attacks on public sector jobs and pensions.'
from http://malatesta32.wordpress.com/201...sp-of-the-edl/
I don't really think stabbing them will do much, but sure as hell beating the shit out them would be more fun. Stabbing sounds like their type of thing.
Never say, you weren't warned
When they come to drag you away
To silence the dissident hiding in us all
They clench the fist of ordained might
From which side of the barbed wire
Do you want to see your life pass by?
Not tough enough to be real hooligans so they join the edl..
'So we must fly a rebel flag, As others did before us, And we must sing a rebel song, And join in rebel chorus.
We'll make the tyrants feel the sting, O' those that they would throttle;, They needn't say the fault is ours, If blood should stain the wattle!"
- Henry Lawson
This. And if you end up doing time for one of these arseholes, I'm sure you'd rather it was months, not years.
"If you're havin girl troubles I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems and a ***** aint one." - Mother Theresa of Calcutta
I agree with the guy who said we should show them no remorse. I don't think stabbing them is the right way, but I think next time they show their stinking skins and come to some city to try and cause trouble, leftists and others should unite. UAF, anarchist groups, various socialist groups, MDL, we need to unite and kick the fuck out of them. They want violence, we'll give them violence, the vast majority of the british working class is on our side not theirs, if the pigs get in the way then beat the crap out of them too. We need to target the EDL, show them they aren't the only ones who can throw a punch.
That is not the answer. That incites violence and will only feed their fire.
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Oh, okay. I'll lay down in future and let the fascist prick kick the shit out of me.
Never say, you weren't warned
When they come to drag you away
To silence the dissident hiding in us all
They clench the fist of ordained might
From which side of the barbed wire
Do you want to see your life pass by?
It is 100% necessary to physically confront fascists if they take to the streets. Their aim is to intimidate the working class and whatever group they're scapegoating. That is unacceptable and needs dealt with.
"If you're havin girl troubles I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems and a ***** aint one." - Mother Theresa of Calcutta
